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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Moron, it is an event which all school students attend, so do minority schools. We have never denied we have a civic duty to Greece.

    This doesn't mean we identify as Greek. What is your point here by opening a troll thread?
    No Muslim is Greek, Pomaks are Muslims.

    Modern Greek nation is formed out of balkan orthodox leftover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Pomaks are Mountain Thracian people and spoke a dialect of Bulgarian due to Bulgarian being synonymous with Islam.
    I know but Thracian people and ancient Macedonian Greeks do not have many differences too in my opinion. Many ancient Greek leaders can have Thracian ancestors. Like Cimon son of Miltiades and Thracian princess. He was relative of historian Thucydides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salonikios View Post
    I know but Thracian people and ancient Macedonian Greeks do not have many differences too in my opinion. Many ancient Greek leaders can have Thracian ancestors. Like Cimon son of Miltiades and Thracian princess. He was relative of historian Thucydides.
    No doubt we are mixed with paeleobalkan people such as Illyrians and Thracians not even up for debate. So Agree totally...but Pomaks are definitely not Turks nor Bulgarian.
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Can you understand this, because Pomaks can and they don't have chinky eyes like Turks or Bulgarians

    Pomaks speak Greek because they need it. They live in Greece.

    https://voca.ro/6oAAlnt4L8v

    Can you understand it? Because this is our language, not Greek.


    Quote Originally Posted by Salonikios View Post
    Pomaks and Northern Greeks don't have many differences. Just Pomaks are muslim. That is all.
    Really? Show me a Northern Greek who scores 28 Baltic in Eurogenes K13. I'm waiting.

    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Pomaks are Mountain Thracian people and spoke a dialect of Bulgarian due to Bulgarian being synonymous with Islam.
    Pomaks are Pomaks. They have additional Slavic admixture compared to Greeks and Bulgarians. They also have additional East-Med admixture.

    Different than both populations.

    Explain, how Bulgarian being synonymous with Islam?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Pomaks are Thracian-Slav mix Muslims. Their language is Bulgarian with Turkish influence. That is my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salonikios View Post
    Pomaks are Thracian-Slav mix Muslims. Their language is Bulgarian with Turkish influence. That is my opinion
    That's correct but this apply for all South Slavs except for religion lol.

    Then let's claim whole Balkan is Greek?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Pomaks speak Greek because they need it. They live in Greece.

    https://voca.ro/6oAAlnt4L8v

    Can you understand it? Because this is our language, not Greek.




    Really? Show me a Northern Greek who scores 28 Baltic in Eurogenes K13. I'm waiting.



    Pomaks are Pomaks. They have additional Slavic admixture compared to Greeks and Bulgarians. They also have additional East-Med admixture.

    Different than both populations.

    Explain, how Bulgarian being synonymous with Islam?
    Bulgarian was synonymous with Islam prior to San Stefano and Excharte in the 1870s then Russian established the Excharte to establish the Christian Bulgarian people, prior to that they were Bulgarian-Greek like under Constantinople's jurisdiction. Read a book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    No doubt we are mixed with paeleobalkan people such as Illyrians and Thracians not even up for debate. So Agree totally...but Pomaks are definitely not Turks nor Bulgarian.
    In terms of genetic, they are closest to Bulgarian. In terms of culture, they are closest to Turks. My whole family and relatives identify as "Pomak Turks." I know this situation is the same in my friends, too.

    Have you ever been in the Thrace and spoke with a Pomak about it? They are more radical about their identification compared to Turks.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    In terms of genetic, they are closest to Bulgarian. In terms of culture, they are closest to Turks. My whole family and relatives identify as "Pomak Turks." I know this situation is the same in my friends, too.

    Have you ever been in the Thrace and spoke with a Pomak about it? They are more radical about their identification compared to Turks.
    You don't seem Pomak to me you have Chinky eyes which Pomaks don't have and never seen you write in Greek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Pomaks speak Greek because they need it. They live in Greece.

    https://voca.ro/6oAAlnt4L8v

    Can you understand it? Because this is our language, not Greek.




    Really? Show me a Northern Greek who scores 28 Baltic in Eurogenes K13. I'm waiting.



    Pomaks are Pomaks. They have additional Slavic admixture compared to Greeks and Bulgarians. They also have additional East-Med admixture.

    Different than both populations.

    Explain, how Bulgarian being synonymous with Islam?
    You don't want to be Greek. Why? Greeks have very ancient civilization. Northern Greeks can have 40-50 steppe admixture as I know. I don't know if they score high baltid. But they can have very similar people. What about med admixture. Actually they are closer to Greeks and Balkan people than Anatolians.

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