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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Wouldn't really want either. Give me something Chad like Polynesian instead.
    Lol...like this dude


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Lol...like this dude

    Yea he probably can crack frying pans with his skull and still sail half the world like a boss.

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    I pick Samoan also. Actually half Samoan, half Black, like The Rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdelnour View Post
    I pick Samoan also. Actually half Samoan, half Black, like The Rock.
    I thought he was half white, half black this whole time

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    native american

    these people are a mix of ancestral north eurasian and north east asian.....nothing undesirable about that

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    polynesians are about 1/4-1/3 papua new guinea like people (ie similar to australian aborigines)

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    Native American. I see as aboriginals living in far worse conditions, and probably face higher discrimination rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    So aboriginals have an altogether bad image in Australia? At least they lived in harmony with the earth. No drain on the planet.
    Actually they're greatly venerated by the media and all institutions for the past 30 or so years, but whether they admit it or not everybody knows how wretched they are in reality, lowers expectations/standards for them and treats them like children (which is usually their mental age).

    Also their history is not exactly harmonious with nature, they desertified the country with their fire-farming practices, and in doing so killed off all the ancient megafauna of Australia and many other species.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehis...na_extinctions
    Sensitivity of the Australian Monsoon to insolation and vegetation: Implications for human impact on continental moisture balance
    Gifford Miller, University of Colorado, INSTAAR, and Department of Geological Sciences, Boulder, CO 80309-0450, USA; et al. Pages 65-68.
    The planetary monsoon explains much of the variability in the annual exchange of energy and moisture between the oceans and land. This paper evaluates changes in the Australian Summer Monsoon, a component of the Asian Monsoon system. Monsoonal rainfall is essential to human sustainability in the past, present, and future, and is a critical driver of landscape ecology and biogeography. Miller et al. show that on hundred-thousand-year time scales the strength of the Australian Monsoon is determined by ice-age cycles of temperature change over central Asia, rather than conditions over Australian itself, as found in a classic monsoon setting, illustrating how the Northern Hemisphere can influence Southern Hemisphere climate. An intriguing element of the Australian Monsoon record is the relative failure of monsoon moisture to intensify in the early Holocene (10,000 years ago), despite reinvigoration of the rest of the planetary monsoon system. They show that this enigma can be explained by altered environmental conditions in Australia. Using a General Circulation Model, they test the sensitivity of the Australian Monsoon to vegetation and soil properties, and find that if northern Australia is mantled by dense vegetation, monsoon rains deliver twice as much moisture to the interior as they do if it is a desert. Miller et al. point out that now-extinct large marsupial herbivores that roamed across much of northern Australia until their extinction 50,000 years ago suggest more abundant vegetation than occurs there at present. They suggest that a changed burning regime, initiated by the earliest human colonizers, may have transformed the vegetation of semi-arid Australia from a drought-tolerant, relatively dense ecosystem to the modern desert scrub, and in so doing led to not only the extinction of the dependent fauna, but also to the long-term desertification of the continent. At a time when landscape modification by human activity is preceding rapidly, this offers a sobering lesson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Actually they're greatly venerated by the media and all institutions for the past 30 or so years, but whether they admit it or not everybody knows how wretched they are in reality, lowers expectations/standards for them and treats them like children (which is usually their mental age).

    Also their history is not exactly harmonious with nature, they desertified the country with their fire-farming practices, and in doing so killed off all the ancient megafauna of Australia and many other species.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehis...na_extinctions
    Sounds like it's a bit uncertain according to your link:

    "The direct cause of the mass extinctions is uncertain: it may have been fire, hunting, climate change or a combination of all or any of these factors. The degree of human agency in these extinctions is still a matter of discussion.[30][31] With no large herbivores to keep the understorey vegetation down and rapidly recycle soil nutrients with their dung, fuel build-up became more rapid and fires burned hotter, further changing the landscape. Against this theory is the evidence that in fact careful seasonal fires from Aboriginal land management practices reduced fuel loads, and prevent wildfires like those seen since European settlement.[32]"

    Was it this video from 30 years ago that help spread public sympathy? This always sticks out in my mind for some reason.


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    American of course. Maybe, something of this kind:


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