why do people talk about native americans and east asians as though they are long lost brothers?

[Carlito's Way]

This is absolutely wrong. Most Mongoloids especially East Asians literally don't have any ANE blood. The only exceptions are Siberians and Central Asians like Mongols who are more Western admixed.

Amerindians have like 30-40% or a bit more ANE while East Asians including Japanese, Koreans literally zero.

SE Asians also have minor ANE but they got it mostly from their South Asian or West Asian admixture.

that is not true, ANE is a Mongoloid trait that has nothing to do with Caucasians
in fact, its South Americans in particular those from the Amazon who have this ANE component the highest, and they are the ones who resemble South east Asians the most
if this ANE were to be Caucasian, the natives in the Amazons would have looked similar to the Silvids of North America, but they do not

"42% of South American Native American ancestry originates from ANE peoples, while between 14% and 38% of North American Native American ancestry may originate from gene flow from the Mal'ta Buret people."


the Caucasians who have the highest ANE are the ones who display mongoloid features, even within Europe, where the ANE peaks, its where you find pseudo mongoloid features
sorry but you cant convience me that this component is Caucasian when people who still have ANE at a high level do not look Caucasian but very Mongoloid

"According to a 2016 study, it was found that the global maximum of ANE ancestry occurs in modern-day Kets, Mansi, Native Americans, Nganasans and Yukaghirs."

Kets = Mongoloid



Mansi = Mongoloid



Amazonian Natives = Mongoloid



Nganasans = Mongoloid



Yukaghirs = Mongoloid




but you want to convince me that ANE is Caucasian? lol sorry but none of those people display Caucasian features, its the opposite, these people look the closest to East and Southeast Asians in terms of looks
while the Amerindians with the lowest ANE do actually display pseudo Caucasian features

[Trouble]

that is not true, ANE is a Mongoloid trait that has nothing to do with Caucasians
in fact, its South Americans in particular those from the Amazon who have this ANE component the highest, and they are the ones who resemble South east Asians the most
if this ANE were to be Caucasian, the natives in the Amazons would have looked similar to the Silvids of North America, but they do not

"42% of South American Native American ancestry originates from ANE peoples, while between 14% and 38% of North American Native American ancestry may originate from gene flow from the Mal'ta Buret people."


the Caucasians who have the highest ANE are the ones who display mongoloid features, even within Europe, where the ANE peaks, its where you find pseudo mongoloid features
sorry but you cant convience me that this component is Caucasian when people who still have ANE at a high level do not look Caucasian but very Mongoloid

"According to a 2016 study, it was found that the global maximum of ANE ancestry occurs in modern-day Kets, Mansi, Native Americans, Nganasans and Yukaghirs."

Kets = Mongoloid



Mansi = Mongoloid



Amazonian Natives = Mongoloid



Nganasans = Mongoloid



Yukaghirs = Mongoloid




but you want to convince me that ANE is Caucasian? lol sorry but none of those people display Caucasian features, its the opposite, these people look the closest to East and Southeast Asians in terms of looks
while the Amerindians with the lowest ANE do actually display pseudo Caucasian features

You are very mistaken. ANE is closer to west Eurasians/Caucasoids than it is to east eurasians. But it's very ancient and does not correlate with looks. The people with the highest ANE in the world besides those South American natives are people living in the Hindu Kush mountains like Kalash and related groups. They in NO WAY resemble mongoloids in the slightest. The reason those other groups resemble Mongoloids is because besides the ANE, they have actual proper east Asian mixture.

Even then, you can look at many of the photos of Uralic people like Mari and Udmurts, many of them look 100% European despite having some proper east Asian as well as high ANE.

[Nordarya]

I claim Turks and Amerindians for paternal cousins, for they're clearly as related to each other as Europeans and Asian Indians. In truth, it may be helpful to have Asian Indians identify as Europeans and Turks identify as (Amer)Indians. This is definitely a paradigm shift in thinking. It's funny how Indo-Europeans are more fraternal with Turks and Amerindians, like how Uralics are actually with Sino-Tibetans. That is if Turks are Q and not C, because it they're C, that cuts them out of the equation and probably ties them to Mongols.

[Synapsid]

You are very mistaken. ANE is closer to west Eurasians/Caucasoids than it is to east eurasians. But it's very ancient and does not correlate with looks. The people with the highest ANE in the world besides those South American natives are people living in the Hindu Kush mountains like Kalash and related groups. They in NO WAY resemble mongoloids in the slightest. The reason those other groups resemble Mongoloids is because besides the ANE, they have actual proper east Asian mixture.

Even then, you can look at many of the photos of Uralic people like Mari and Udmurts, many of them look 100% European despite having some proper east Asian as well as high ANE.

Desgestanis, Ossets, Circassians etc have high ANE, insanely high for a modern Caucasoid population and they don't look east asian. I theorise that there are two Type of ANE, one is a well conserved MA-1 type that contributed to Natives, some Siberians, Iranian Neolithics/Mesolithic Iranians, West Siberian Hunter Gatherers etc. And the other type is an Anfontova Gora type ANE population that existed in NW Siberia/Perm/European Russia and underwent extreme depigmentation and light hair mutations that mixed with WGH to form the EHG that went on to form the Steppe Indo-Europeans.

[Trouble]

Desgestanis, Ossets, Circassians etc have high ANE, insanely high for a modern Caucasoid population and they don't look east asian. I theorise that there are two Type of ANE, one is a well conserved MA-1 type that contributed to Natives, some Siberians, Iranian Neolithics/Mesolithic Iranians, West Siberian Hunter Gatherers etc. And the other type is an Anfontova Gora type ANE population that existed in NW Siberia/Perm/European Russia and underwent extreme depigmentation and light hair mutations that mixed with WGH to form the EHG that went on to form the Steppe Indo-Europeans.

Yes, I totally forgot about them too.

[Crimson Winds]

Desgestanis, Ossets, Circassians etc have high ANE, insanely high for a modern Caucasoid population and they don't look east asian. I theorise that there are two Type of ANE, one is a well conserved MA-1 type that contributed to Natives, some Siberians, Iranian Neolithics/Mesolithic Iranians, West Siberian Hunter Gatherers etc. And the other type is an Anfontova Gora type ANE population that existed in NW Siberia/Perm/European Russia and underwent extreme depigmentation and light hair mutations that mixed with WGH to form the EHG that went on to form the Steppe Indo-Europeans.

Actually, there are more Turanid looking Circassians than to the Turks though they do have half non-ANE Asian than to Turks. I think there might be some connection.