Are S. Euros the smartest Europeans?

[Samnium]

They fought for the land, it can be argued that N. Europeans lost that battle and were forced to move North, the ancient past in murky. All that is certain is that today we must work together as one, in the old and new world - we were put on this earth to rule it.

Being from two different parts of Europe I could not agree more about, these debates shouldn't even exist, unfortunately nordicists and mediterraneists did their job by creating discord amongst online members.

[Daco Celtic]

Madison Grant

[Ranger0075]

[/B] country Turkey
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Be civilized man, otherwise I'll delete this thread. I dont wanna shitstorm here.
No civilized people means low intelligence quotient

[Samnium]

I could totally agree with you saying that same could be said for Indians who used to live on the valleys and mesopotamians, they were the first ones to contribute with humanity, they used to live in fertile lands

But what about sub-saharan africans? They also were lucky when it comes to their lands but no significant civilization was founded.

And look at egyptians, poor lands even so important contributions.

Also, N Euros are pretty smart and currently got the highest education levels, but I think it is also due the fact southerners are not exploring their full potential.

Southerners had a very high number of outstanding figures from Antiquity until nowadays. North Euros have risen because Southern Europe suffered a lot from the destruction of Roman Empire, that impoverished it.

People should never forget that the wheel and the nation-state weren't invented by Europeans. The first important civilizations that occurred in Europe are the Minoans and the Myceneans and they came later.

[Synapsid]

Exactly. They have a good economic system, fiscals paradises and an important Canal which give pass for both oceans. Geographically it is privileged, same as Turkey is geographically privileged even tho the last one has political issues.

Interestingly, they largely avoided the Drug war blood bath that plagues Colombia and Mexico despite being located in a strategic region.

[Samnium]

If they were the smartest, they wouldn't be far less developed than Northern and Central Europe and their colonies in Latin America wouldn't be Third-World shitholes.

There are cities in Southern Europe that have been continously inhabited since thousands of years.

Being far less developed by 2020 standards doesn't means anything.

For you the smartest people are the richest ? USA are filled with idiots and ignorants and yet they are the first economy of our world.

Finally as you're Turkish, remember that your people contributed to the poverty of the Balkans, so I wouldn't be so arrogant at your place, bootlicking North-Western Europeans doesn't make your statements more true either.

[Synapsid]

Madison Grant

Grant saw the Japanese as a Racial threat.

[Kivan]

There are cities in Southern Europe that have been continously inhabited since thousands of years.

Being far less developed by 2020 standards doesn't means anything.

For you the smartest people are the richest ? USA are filled with idiots and ignorants and yet they are the first economy of our world.

For each idiot in the USA they have plenty of smart people. For more you argue that the country has many idiots, it still have many people who contributed with development of science and technology, for example. A nation can't be developed without having many intelligent people. It's simple as that.

Only by the fact the internet and computer we are using today were created by them, it explains a lot what i meant.

Finally as you're Turkish, remember that your people contributed to the poverty of the Balkans, so I wouldn't be so arrogant at your place, bootlicking North-Western Europeans doesn't make your statements more true.

I'm not bootlicking NW Europeans, i'm stating facts. If South Europe were more developed i would say that instead.

People always use this excuse of that Balkans is poor because of Turks but totally ignore they were under communist regimes and it also caused poverty as well. Also, there's no excuse. Japan and South Korea were destroyed by the war and suffered far more than Balkanites for n reasons and today they are rich and developed.

[Samnium]

For each idiot in the USA they have plenty of smart people. For more you argue that the country has many idiots, it still have many people who contributed with development of science and technology, for example. A nation can't be developed without having many intelligent people. It's simple as that.

You vastly under-estimate the average intelligence and instruction of an american, even white. Most of MIT students are either Asian immigrants or Asian Americans.

United States brought the money and researchers from all over the world went there. They aren't born-americans.

Fermi ? Italian. Einstein ? German jewish. Francis Crick ? English.

I could go on and on.

Only by the fact the internet and computer we are using today were created by them, it explains a lot what i meant.

It doesn't means anything, without Faggin that is italian your computer wouldn't even work.

I'm not bootlicking NW Europeans, i'm stating facts. If South Europe were more developed i would say that instead.

Did you ever read what I've written.. Being the richest country doesn't equal to intelligence and being poorer than United Kingdom doesn't make you less intelligent.

The link that you're trying to make between wealth and intelligence is fallacious and based upon nothing that your desire of despising Southern Europeans.

People always use this excuse of that Balkans is poor because of Turks but totally ignore they were under communist regimes and it also caused poverty as well.
Also, it's not an excuse.

Ottoman Empire has destroyed Balkans and prevented them to know communal experiences like Northern Italy or Netherlands did. They maintaned a strict control of those countries.

Japan and South Korea were destroyed by the war and suffered far more than Balkanites for n reasons and today they are rich and developed.

Japanese and Korean were heavily helped by Americans to reconstruct their country, what you're talking about ?

[Samnium]

Southern Europens are less intelligent than Northern Euros according to Kivan because they aren't "rich" by 2020 standards.

Your vision of civilization is based upon nothing more than money and gold.

Yet these dumb Southern Euros managed to create Western philosophy, Antic architecture, democracy and geometry.