How come that many White South Africans have Hottentot admixture (even if minor)?

[chociprasa]

I presume that this mostly applies to Afrikaners/Boers, rather than the Anglo South Africans. Was this due to early colonial admixture in the 17th century or did this occur later, and what was the reason for this mixing with the native peoples of South Africa? I had always imagined the Boers to be a distant group from the natives, that had their own societies and so on with no black South Africans living alongside with them. I would have presumed that native admixture would have been seen as low status and would have been frowned upon among the European/Dutch settlers of the time, similar to the Aboriginals in Australia and other native groups in other New World countries.

I also think that the reason as to why convex noses are more common in white South Africans than in Europeans and other white New Worlders is due to Hottentot admixture.

[Lucas]

I presume that this mostly applies to Afrikaners/Boers, rather than the Anglo South Africans. Was this due to early colonial admixture in the 17th century or did this occur later, and what was the reason for this mixing with the native peoples of South Africa? I had always imagined the Boers to be a distant group from the natives, that had their own societies and so on with no black South Africans living alongside with them. I would have presumed that native admixture would have been seen as low status and would have been frowned upon among the European/Dutch settlers of the time, similar to the Aboriginals in Australia and other native groups in other New World countries.

I also think that the reason as to why convex noses are more common in white South Africans than in Europeans and other white New Worlders is due to Hottentot admixture.

Because first Euro settlers came without women. This first mixed offspring was later accepted in white society, at least in some part. Another thing that Euro-Hottentot mix looks "whiter" than Euro-Bantu.

[Nordarya]

In Iceland, there's at least one case each, of a female Mongoloid and a male Negroid. In New Amsterdam, there was one Barbary Corsair, IIRC. Of the few South Africans I have met IRL, one was English from Durban and another one was Portuguese, but I forgot where he was living at exactly. Who knows?

[Nordarya]

Because first Euro settlers came without women. This first mixed offspring was later accepted in white society, at least in some part. Another thing that Euro-Hottentot mix looks "whiter" than Euro-Bantu.

You're referring to the Coloureds.

[Lucas]

You're referring to the Coloureds.

Nope. First Trekboers integrated into his community mixed-race children, derived from times when there was no white women in colony. It was long before of the creation of distinct Coloured group. Of course it wasn't majority and later there were submerged when more white settlers (and women) came in, so it is why Boers have such admixture at 2-3% level now.

[Adamastor]

Almost all Boer results I've seen have small percentages of not only SSA but also South Asian and Indonesian. I recently posted a guy that looks very Dutch and is 4% SSA, 2% South Asian and 2% Indonesian. 8% non-European in total.

Actually only Anglo New World self-identified white groups tend to be genetically 100% European. I'm not even talking about Latin Americans here, but look at many French Canadians and Cajuns from Louisiana, they also have admixture, sometimes considerable in the case of the latter. ''White'' people from Réunion Island (French colony) also have significant admixture from Africans and South Asians.

There's a Canadian member here with French-Canadian ancestry scoring 4% Amerindian, American member Celestia/Celestial Slayer has French Cajun ancestry and is 3% SSA, her mother being 7-10%.

It seems Anglos created the only ''fully European'' societies in the New World.

[Nordarya]

Nope. First Trekboers integrated into his community mixed-race children, derived from times when there was no white women in colony. It was long before of the creation of distinct Coloured group. Of course it wasn't majority and later there were submerged when more white settlers (and women) came in, so it is why Boers have such admixture at 2-3% level now.

Pocahontas of the Zulu Dawn.

[Adamastor]

Pocahontas of the Zulu Dawn.

Zulus are Bantus from elsewhere in Africa, they settled recently in South Africa. The natives of South Africa were the Khoi peoples, who were classified as ''Capoids'' and not Negroids by early 20th century anthropologists.

[Nordarya]

Zulus are Bantus from elsewhere in Africa, they settled recently in South Africa. The natives of South Africa were the Khoi peoples, who were classified as ''Capoids'' and not Negroids by early 20th century anthropologists.

Right. You just reminded me of the land wars by Groid-raging Mugabe and his perfect foils, Tutu and Mandela. The Groids are genociding Albino Boers and not giving the land back to the Clickmasters. Bantustans for all nations these days.

[Creoda]

They were oil drillers before becoming Farmers.