How come that many White South Africans have Hottentot admixture (even if minor)?

[Kamal900]

Rwandans have some lowland East Cushitic ancestry. Its in some their mythos as well. Gihanga, being the first leader of Rwandans and the first Tutsi, is said have come from the north around the time the Oromos were mass migrating to Abyssinia and causing havoc on Othodox Ethiopic lands (1500s)

Well, South Arabia used to be inhabited by Cushtic peoples as well in pre-Semitic Arabia before they got assimilated by the Semitic migrants from the Levant during the bronze age period of the middle east which is why Old South Arabian and Modern South Arabian languages have Cushtic substrate.

[Synapsid]

Well, South Arabia used to be inhabited by Cushtic peoples as well in pre-Semitic Arabia before they got assimilated by the Semitic migrants from the Levant during the bronze age period of the middle east which is why Old South Arabian and Modern South Arabian languages have Cushtic substrate.

Really? Ge'ez (ancestral to Ethiosemtic and the language of the Axumite and the Church) and to some extend Tigaryian (the most conservative Ethio-Semitic) differs from the more dominant Amharic language by having low Cushitic loan words while Amharic has a cushitic substrate from an Agew like source. Amharic dates to the Early Middle Ages when Highland Ethio-semites and Highland Cushitics that are distinct from lowland Cushitics like Somalis started to mix and Amahric became the National Language under Yekuno Amlak (ይኵኖ አምላክ). Recent DNA research has shown that an Levant_N (Old stock Levantines) - an extinct East African Hunter population mix had spread from North East African to the Rest of East Africa, spreading neolithic technology such as pastroalism (Pastoral Savannah complex). This North East african population was 70-60 % Pre-Pottery Neolithic B levantine and the rest was an extinct E. African population and they were the dominant stock of East Africa until the Bantu expansion. They were the people theorised to be the Speakers of a Cushitic language. I doubt South Arabians spoke an Cushitic language, but please show me the links.

[Kamal900]

Really? Ge'ez (ancestral to Ethiosemtic and the language of the Axumite and the Church) and to some extend Tigaryian (the most conservative Ethio-Semitic) differs from the more dominant Amharic language by having low Cushitic loan words while Amharic has a cushitic substrate from an Agew like source. Amharic dates to the Early Middle Ages when Highland Ethio-semites and Highland Cushitics that are distinct from lowland Cushitics like Somalis started to mix and Amahric became the National Language under Yekuno Amlak (ይኵኖ አምላክ). Recent DNA research has shown that an Levant_N (Old stock Levantines) - an extinct East African Hunter population mix had spread from North East African to the Rest of East Africa, spreading neolithic technology such as pastroalism (Pastoral Savannah complex). This North East african population was 70-60 % Pre-Pottery Neolithic B levantine and the rest was an extinct E. African population and they were the dominant stock of East Africa until the Bantu expansion. They were the people theorised to be the Speakers of a Cushitic language. I doubt South Arabians spoke an Cushitic language, but please show me the links.

Well, my friend from Anthrogenica told me that's the case, though I don't know if it's true or not. I couldn't find any recent articles or books on the whole thing, so I'm not really sure myself.

[Synapsid]

Well, my friend from Anthrogenica told me that's the case, though I don't know if it's true or not. I couldn't find any recent articles or books on the whole thing, so I'm not really sure myself.

I know that there was a relationship between Sab'a, which was Sabean Yemeni state and Yeha (Ge'ez: ይሐ yiḥa, older ESA ����, Old South Arabian: ������ Yḥʾ) which was the capital D'MT (lol only three consonants, typical Semitic), they seemed worship similar deities. They even found massive slabs of stone inscriptions in Yeha, Ethiopia where the language is Seb'aen. But the only presence of North Africans in a large number in the Arabia proper was in the Axumite period, when king Kaleb send an Army under the request of Junstinine I to stop the persecution of Christians in Himyar by the Jewish King Dhu-Nuwas, but the Axumite Governor usurped the Arab provinces to be a self declared Ruler, his name was Abraha, which is familiar name to my Habesha relatives and to you arabs (al fil, Ababil etc).

[Kamal900]

I know that there was a relationship between Sab'a, which was Sabean Yemeni state and Yeha (Ge'ez: ይሐ yiḥa, older ESA ����, Old South Arabian: ������ Yḥʾ) which was the capital D'MT (lol only three consonants, typical Semitic), they seemed worship similar deities. They even found massive slabs of stone inscriptions in Yeha, Ethiopia where the language is Seb'aen. But the only presence of North Africans in a large number in the Arabia proper was in the Axumite period, when king Kaleb send an Army under the request of Junstinine I to stop the persecution of Christians in Himyar by the Jewish King Dhu-Nuwas, but the Axumite Governor usurped the Arab provinces to be a self declared Ruler, his name was Abraha, which is familiar name to my Habesha relatives and to you arabs (al fil, Ababil etc).

Are you half East-African like Ethiopian or Eritrean by any chance? It's pretty cool that if you are an Afro-Asiatic African.

[sean]

I presume that this mostly applies to Afrikaners/Boers, rather than the Anglo South Africans. Was this due to early colonial admixture in the 17th century or did this occur later, and what was the reason for this mixing with the native peoples of South Africa?

Some of them aren't 100% white genetically, especially older clans like the Malans and others with a heritage going back to the founding of Cape Colony. The first Europeans who came in the 1600s were Dutch workers who fucked Khoi women. Their offspring became the griquas. A Hottentot woman named Eva-Krotoa is the progenitor of a number of Afrikaner first families. All of her mixed-race children in turn married European men. It's no secret that when the Cape was settled European women were scarce, so it was essentially a Coloured city from the beginning that was gradually bleached by subsequent European immigration.

So you have essentially an urban Afrikaner population with traces of Asian and African ancestry that has been bred out to the point that it is no longer visually possible to observe it. However, the rural Afrikaner population clearly has more traces of mixing particularly with negroes. Still, the rural white population is actually a rather small proportion of the total Afrikaner population, a tiny minority of what we consider South African whites.

It is hard to find good data on this topic without a decent sample of Afrikaners from all areas of South Africa providing DNA samples, which doesn't exist.

Are you half East-African like Ethiopian or Eritrean by any chance? It's pretty cool that if you are an Afro-Asiatic African.

He is a Somali I think.

[Synapsid]

Are you half East-African like Ethiopian or Eritrean by any chance? It's pretty cool that if you are an Afro-Asiatic African.

Yes. And the half is English. My mother is Habesha from the Tigray regions (the Concept of Ethiopia/Eritrea get blurry here)

[Cristiano viejo]

Almost all Boer results I've seen have small percentages of not only SSA but also South Asian and Indonesian. I recently posted a guy that looks very Dutch and is 4% SSA, 2% South Asian and 2% Indonesian. 8% non-European in total.

Actually only Anglo New World self-identified white groups tend to be genetically 100% European. I'm not even talking about Latin Americans here, but look at many French Canadians and Cajuns from Louisiana, they also have admixture, sometimes considerable in the case of the latter. ''White'' people from Réunion Island (French colony) also have significant admixture from Africans and South Asians.

There's a Canadian member here with French-Canadian ancestry scoring 4% Amerindian, American member Celestia/Celestial Slayer has French Cajun ancestry and is 3% SSA, her mother being 7-10%.

It seems Anglos created the only ''fully European'' societies in the New World.

But do you say this with the minimal respect for the truth?? first, Anglos created what now is called USA, a multicultural society where miscegenation is in the order of the day... and second, read yourself, that Canadian user (Le Prier) and that American user (Celestia) are also of Anglo ancestry. If you are calling them mixed people (indeed they are) then you can not claim immediately after Anglos created the only fully European societies in America, it is stupid for contradictory

[Smeagol]

USA, a multicultural society where miscegenation is in the order of the day

Not really, as even today, over 90% of whites aren't mixing, and the ones who do are concentrated in the urban parts of coastal states. In much of the country, race mixing is still taboo. Remember that we had laws against it until 1967.

[Kamal900]

Yes. And the half is English. My mother is Habesha from the Tigray regions (the Concept of Ethiopia/Eritrea get blurry here)

Oh, cool. Do you speak Tigrinya as well? Here's a video on the similarities between your language and the Arabic language: