Gypsies and African Americans

[Tauromachos]

Yes, here it is generally believed to have come from the Turks. Other Balkaners also have their variety of this dish. I guess Turks got them from Arabs, right?

The idea to use gabbage or some other type of similar vegetable and to stuff them with something is neither exclusivly invented
by Turks nor by Arabs but could have been invented by many different people at different times

[Lioncourt]

African Americans have their own elite (doctors, lawyers, celebrities, sportsmen, even scientists), Gypsies don't. There are some successful Gypsies but there aren't enough to influence other Gypsies positively.

[Mortimer]

African Americans have their own elite (doctors, lawyers, celebrities, sportsmen, even scientists), Gypsies don't. There are some successful Gypsies but there aren't enough to influence other Gypsies positively.

I think that will change now. Because I think 50 or 100 years ago it would be impossible to have a gypsy soccer team or gypsy kickboxers posing with the gypsy flag after a fight. First it must be ok to be gypsy, or succesful gyspies will hide they are. Gypsy or Cigan Zigeuner can also be a slur and a succesful person wont say he is.

[Tauromachos]

African Americans have their own elite (doctors, lawyers, celebrities, sportsmen, even scientists), Gypsies don't. There are some successful Gypsies but there aren't enough to influence other Gypsies positively.

Gypsies have Elite people just as African Americans have

There are Gypsy politicians,very wealthy Gypsy business men and of course many artists,first and foremost musicians but not only

I don't see why or how African Americans are superior to Gypsies

If we take very low class Gypsies then there is African American Ghettos in the US and they are not much different

In fact both groups are comparable in regards to their societies
I think OP made a point here

The faced similar problems and fates in the past,their traditional social roles are similar there is similar developments
with regards to them in our current societies

[WeißerJunge]

African Americans and Africans in general who were brought to the Americas suffered a lot more than gypsies. And the body count for Blacks is still way higher than for gypsies. Close to 70,000 Blacks are killed every year in the Americas alone. That is only counting murder. If you count all the sick Black people dying in the hospitals because of corrupt White politicians and business people, then we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people being exterminated each year. Luckily, God has blessed Blacks with high fertility there, so Africans are actually expanding all over the world. But it is an awful system Blacks are living it, there is no denying that. No other racial/ethnic group has suffered even 5% of what Blacks went/are going through.

[luc2112]

^lol

[luc2112]

Gypsies can be compared to groups of Amerindians who are not socially integrated. In the guettos of blacks in the Americas there is drug trafficking, homicide rates are high and in the USA they are 50% of the prison population.

[WeißerJunge]

African Americans have their own elite (doctors, lawyers, celebrities, sportsmen, even scientists), Gypsies don't. There are some successful Gypsies but there aren't enough to influence other Gypsies positively.

The African American "elite" is not well connected to lower-class Blacks. Some of them are completely useless. But then again, I have my suspicions that these people are actually chosen by the system. They don't want rich woke Blacks.

[Tauromachos]

Gypsies can be compared to groups of Amerindians who are not socially integrated. In the guettos of blacks in the Americas there is drug trafficking, homicide rates are high and in the USA they are 50% of the prison population.

So its similar or the same to Gypsie ghettos in poor regions or countries of Eastern or South East Europe

Like some places in Czechia,Hungary and Bulgaria

[PaleoEuropean]

I don't agree with that at all, because Blacks tend to be very well-respected and have a privileged place (in American society, anyway--obviously not on TA); I can't imagine people ever thinking of Gypsies that way...

Yea there are normal blacks, I don't hate black people in general. When blacks are good people, they are very respectful and helpful.