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    Default The Netherlands and the multicultural problem.

    From the excellent blog Gates of Vienna:

    From the future front of the battle against Islam, the old Dutch neighbourhoods, here’s my translation of a small article from the November 7th edition of De Telegraaf, entitled “Wanneer houdt het op?” (i.e. enough is enough, when/where will it stop?)



    Some background: the lantern parades described in the article are based on the feast of St. Martin of Tours (we all know why Tours is an important historical place;-) celebrated by children who go door to door with self-made lanterns, singing all kinds of songs about St. Martin, in order to get candy. Halloween is sort of related to it (and is also celebrated, like a novelty, same with Santa Claus, who better not show his face before Sinterklaas has left and returned to Spain).

    The translation of the article from De Telegraaf:
    Even little children are no longer safe from thugs

    WHERE DOES IT STOP?

    The Hague — On Wednesday evening, a group of Moroccan youths completely ruined an already heavily guarded lantern parade in the Transvaal neighbourhood of The Hague. Little children were bombarded with eggs when they followed a marching band with their multi-coloured lanterns. A woman, watching the parade with her dog, was harassed while the youths tried to kick her dog. Police officers who tried to intervene were met with a barrage of projectiles. Only one of the youths (15 years old) could be apprehended after a wild chase.

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    The organizing committee Haagse Hopjes [a traditional local sweet — translator] is more than fed up with the continuing harassment and hopes that at last something will be done against it. ‘They get away with it while the local authorities only give them an occasional slap on the wrist and a pat on their heads. But they should all be rounded up and be put away, together with their parents, in some correctional facility,’ according to a defiant staff member Joke van den Boomen.

    According to eyewitnesses, the group of at least twenty Moroccan youths almost immediately started their intimidation as the children gathered for their procession. They tried to storm the small community centre where the little ones were getting a hot cup of cocoa. Van de Boomen: ‘It already is a bloody shame that we are forced to ask dozens of policemen, guards and others to assist at a lantern parade. They were barely able to restrain most of those boys. But then outside they went crazy anyway.’
    […]

    The Haagse Hopjes-foundation has warned before that all events for the local kids, like the festive arrival of Sinterklaas, would come to a halt. ‘But we won’t let them steal this from our little ones. We will not be chased away either. My only fear is that we’ll run out of volunteers pretty soon.’
    And some commentary by Sagunto:
    This obviously is just one little brick in a structure of so many “incidents” that attests to the colourful contribution of Muslim youths, mainly of Moroccan origin, to Dutch society and its remaining traditions. Little and insignificant as this report may be, in many ways it already points towards the most likely scenario for the inevitable clash in the future, which will be a folk rebellion against Islam and everything associated with it.

    Below this news item, one could read the many angry and furious comments from Dutch parents. Here’s an impression:

    “As a law abiding citizen one can hope for years on end that the government will put a stop to certain atrocities, but it seems one can wait till hell freezes over. So, people, if the government doesn’t protect us, we should take justice into our own hands to protect our children and grandchildren. Those who won’t listen will have to feel [the consequences] someday.”

    “Hang ‘em! …parents and all!”

    “Go on Moroccan scum, the more hate you’ll reap pretty soon!”

    “..form a nation-wide gang of strong-arm boys and teach them and their parents a lesson for them to remember upon their return to their land of origin..”

    “put a.50 on it. Problem solved..”

    “..looking forward to the upcoming feast of Sinterklaas. Bring it on, and I’ll bring a big butcher’s knife and anyone who lays a finger on my kids better think twice!”

    The count stopped at around 1000 comments within a few hours…

    In the same article, the only surviving and truly national Saint, i.e. “Sinterklaas” (Saint Nicholas of Myra) is mentioned. This is also a deeply rooted part of Dutch tradition and folklore and a feast for every child, to be celebrated on the 5th (6th) of December. This tradition also has been a target for Muslim youths in many Dutch cities, who harass and threaten the old Bishop and his servants (“Zwarte Pieten”, i.e. “Black Peters”, black from charcoal that is) when they go door to door, visiting Dutch families as part of the ritual.

    As I mentioned before, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if something “small”, like one of these two cherished traditions, especially when children are targeted directly or indirectly, will prove to be the final straw and the trigger for a vast Dutch uprising against Islam.


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    Iam afraid it doesn't going to stop, not in the nearby future anyway.
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    Cool Waking up to the threat of Islamization?

    This has got to be the best news I have heard in years regarding the Muslim invasion of the Netherlands:

    ..........."'Integration calls on the greatest effort from the new Dutch. Let go of where you come from; choose the Netherlands unconditionally.'" Immigrants must "'take responsibility for this country'" and cherish and protect its Dutch essence.
    Not clear enough? Ploumen insists, "'The success of the integration process is hindered by the disproportionate number of non-natives involved in criminality and trouble-making, by men who refuse to shake hands with women, by burqas and separate courses for women on citizenship.
    "We have to stop the existence of parallel societies within our society.'"

    Here is the link:

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/...cus.php?page=1


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    Acknowledging their intrinsic difference is only the first step. The main point is these people are - racially foremost* - alien to Europe, they do not belong, hence we should not look into integrating them, but shift the focus to removing them from European soil for good and prevent any more of them from arriving.


    (*) also culturally of course, however IMO race influences culture, hence I consider race more crucial.


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    Yeah I noticed quite a lot of Arabs in the Netherlands...
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    Humph I bet they'll avoid it, probably by crying on about their "diversity" and how beating women is in their religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    Yeah I noticed quite a lot of Arabs in the Netherlands...
    Where I lived there always a lot of Berbers. I don't think there are a lott of Arabs in the Netherlands. I once heard that 99% of the Marocans who claim to be Arab are actualy culturaly Arabised Berbers. Not that make much of a difference.

    I however do notice a increase in the number of black muslims where I live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groenewolf View Post
    Where I lived there always a lot of Berbers. I don't think there are a lott of Arabs in the Netherlands. I once heard that 99% of the Marocans who claim to be Arab are actualy culturaly Arabised Berbers. Not that make much of a difference.

    I however do notice a increase in the number of black muslims where I live.

    Does it matter?
    But I think you're correct. Though Arab can be used to refer to the Arabic populations of the equator, so I am not entirely incorrect...

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    For muslims to be a distinctive group inside their "host countries" is a good thing, since we don't really want them to integrate and become a component of a European country's ethnic identity. The only good thing from forcing them to adopt a Dutch way of living would be if it dissuades further immigration.

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    Great article. At least it shows a very open and liberal country taking a stand ('true' political motivation notwithstanding) and saying "whoa wait a minute!"

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