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    Sylvana’s BIJ1 voert apartheid in op Keti Koti: alleen Surinaamse partijleden mogen bloemen leggen



    De partij van de diversiteit en de gelijkwaardigheid voert tóch een ietwat andere koers als het gaat om Surinamers en Nederlanders. Bij Keti Koti vandaag mogen alleen de eerstgenoemden kransen leggen. De tweede groep mag alleen van een afstandje toekijken, zo heeft de grote VJ besloten.

    Wie niet in Amsterdam woont heeft het vermoedelijk gemist, dus bij dezen: vandaag, 1 juli, is Keti Koti. Een feest waarmee Surinaamse Nederlanders vieren dat de slavernij in 1863 werd afgeschaft. En dat men zich in de negentiende eeuw heeft ontdaan van dat mensonterende systeem, is méér dan goed. Slavernij was onmenselijk. Verder ook geen punt om dat eens per jaar te herdenken, toch?

    Maar je kan natuurlijk ook overdrijven. Door de gelegenheid te misbruiken om mensen geld uit hun portemonnee te kloppen, of door de dag te vieren door ‘niet-Surinaamse Nederlanders’ voor één dag een soort tweederangsburgerschap te bieden.

    Dat is laatste is echter precies wat men bij BIJ1, de partij van Sylvana Simons, doet op Keti Koti. Ter ere van de herdenking mogen de bloemen namens de partij alleen gelegd worden door “onze Surinaamse BIJ1’ers”, aldus partij-oma Anja Meulenbelt op Facebook. Naast oprichtster Sylvana Simons zijn dat kennelijk de voormalige gemeenteraadskandidaten Glenda Vijzelman en Vayhishta Miskin.

    Buitengewoon ironisch, want wie hun voorstelpraatjes op de partijwebsite opzoekt, leest dat Glenda graag “meedenkt over diversiteit” en Vayhista meent dat de politiek “een afspiegeling van de samenleving dient te zijn.” Right. Alleen niet op Keti Koti, want dan is het Surinamers boven… en de rest telt niet mee.








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    • Shashi van UP! Network was aanwezig bij het jaarlijkse Keti Koti Festival, waar de slavernij werd herdacht. • We zijn knettergek geworden: jongerenplatform NOS Stories goochelt met de waarheid over klimaatverandering. • Warmste juni ooit? No way! Verenigde Naties-voorspelling na 30 jaar nog steeds niet uitgekomen. Integendeel!



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Wish it had subtitles. Also interresting the show is called Jensen? cause thats a danish surname.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matxe92 View Post
    Wish it had subtitles. Also interresting the show is called Jensen? cause thats a danish surname.
    That's because his father is Danish. I believe he was a former junior diplomat.



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    The Netherlands doesn't have a multicultural problem, it has a North African/Moroccan problem.
    Similar to France, Belgium, and now Germany.

    Honestly when I read stories like in the OP, I just think the core problem is how the Dutch (like many European populations) don't have hardcore groups to protect them. It has to be said but if you had a dozen brutal neo nazis bashing these guys' heads in the minute they looked at a Dutch wrong, none of this would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekken View Post
    The Netherlands doesn't have a multicultural problem, it has a North African/Moroccan problem.
    Similar to France, Belgium, and now Germany.

    Honestly when I read stories like in the OP, I just think the core problem is how the Dutch (like many European populations) don't have hardcore groups to protect them. It has to be said but if you had a dozen brutal neo nazis bashing these guys' heads in the minute they looked at a Dutch wrong, none of this would happen.

    Neo nazis (like any groups) can not save the country if the leaders/system are heavily against of them. And even more ... if big majority of people are against them.

    Sweden is a good example of that. There were neo nazis at late 1980's and early 1990's ... and they fought against (rising numbers of) immigrants. It is not a huge surprise, that most of those fights happened exactly in Skåne (Southern Sweden, Malmö). But nothing changed as those neo nazis where judged as criminals and Sweden's immigration policy continued like it had been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Neo nazis (like any groups) can not save the country if the leaders/system are heavily against of them. And even more ... if big majority of people are against them.

    Sweden is a good example of that. There were neo nazis at late 1980's and early 1990's ... and they fought against (rising numbers of) immigrants. It is not a huge surprise, that most of those fights happened exactly in Skåne (Southern Sweden, Malmö). But nothing changed as those neo nazis where judged as criminals and Sweden's immigration policy continued like it had been.
    And even accelerated. And I probably know why they did it: in order to further humiliate the population and make them understand that every resistance would be crushed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Neo nazis (like any groups) can not save the country if the leaders/system are heavily against of them. And even more ... if big majority of people are against them.

    Sweden is a good example of that. There were neo nazis at late 1980's and early 1990's ... and they fought against (rising numbers of) immigrants. It is not a huge surprise, that most of those fights happened exactly in Skåne (Southern Sweden, Malmö). But nothing changed as those neo nazis where judged as criminals and Sweden's immigration policy continued like it had been.
    What I mean is a solid core of young White men who would give a solid beating to these scum.
    I just took the neo nazi as example because those guys can really scare those immigrants, but could be any plainclothes group really.

    In any Asian country, if you are a foreign and fuck with the locals, the entire town will come down on you and beat the living F out of you.
    This is why Blacks and Arabs don't F too much with Asians in Asia or Russians in Russia.

    Seriously these Moroccans need to taste the pavement a couple times and learn fear, that's the missing equation.

    Case in point look at that Afro immigrant in Russia getting what he deserves outside a nightclub (he was harassing girls)
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    That's because the authorities back them. Here our own government is the enemy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Is he the Dutch Alex Jones? It's kinda true what I've been told; sounds like American English had a baby with a coughing German. The way he said "white privilege". Goddamn! Someone get this man a star-spangled banner shirt. Ah, I kinda like Shashi here "en Wat is dat?" Did she say something close to "klar hud"?( in this context you'd hear "lys", I guess, but whatever) What's the Dutch word for skin? I even picked up the chickie talking about micro-aggression. Wow. The Dutch feel our pain. They've morons like this running their mouths as well. I heard him say something close to "utroligt" at 12:48. Did he mean to say; Unbelievable? The way he said "hypocrisy" at 27:05, stings some, kinda wish I had that cadance. 29:39, that's right! You bring up fucking China! The fuck are those snotnosed brats trying to kid? 35:45 Oh God! There's president Menudo! Did he call both him and Trudeau weasels? Seem to be following OK thus far. Wonder how much trouble learning this would be. God. I'd easily understand this better if it weren't for those g's. Just watched the whole thing, don't know whether it was because he was entertaining or because it's easy enough for an anglophone to follow much of it.
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