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    The Dark ages era Irish saved Europe Intellectually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    The Dark ages era Irish saved Europe Intellectually.
    The monks saved the literature by transcribing books but they also started up a lot of places of learning on the Continent.

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    There is a study coming out around March from France using ancient genomes. I hope it is a good comprehensive one but even if not it is still a start to getting some ancient genomes from France which will be very welcomed.

    Anyway the thread title should be Normans made a big impact because they definitely had a big influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    The monks saved the literature by transcribing books but they also started up a lot of places of learning on the Continent.
    Yes. They invented a system of tidal dams and mills to help power the Monasteries. They re-christinized the British Isles (although they choose the Roman rite later) and brought literacy to the nascent English kingdoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Yes. They invented a system of tidal dams and mills to help power the Monasteries. They re-christinized the British Isles (although they choose the Roman rite later) and brought literacy to the nascent English kingdoms.
    The only thing that matters is the Irish gave us Guinness in the end.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    There is a study coming out around March from France using ancient genomes. I hope it is a good comprehensive one but even if not it is still a start to getting some ancient genomes from France which will be very welcomed.

    Anyway the thread title should be Normans made a big impact because they definitely had a big influence.
    The is a drought of Studies involving France, why is that? I know they have backward laws about DNA testings. What are the French exactly? Are they also Rhenish Bell Beaker folks who are Corded Ware + WHG rich Globular Amphora/TRB farmers like the Low land Germanic people like the Dutch and Post Neolithic Brits? Or do they have Iberian related Neolithic Farmer ancestry? What happened to the native EEF in France? Were they replaced like the British isles or was the replacement levels between British levels and Iberian levels? Because the French look More Northern European than Med to me phenotypically, yet all these people on TA take about the French being relatively 'South shifted' compared to the irish, Dutch etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    The only thing that matters is the Irish gave us Guinness in the end.
    Yes. But I am a strongbow man. Besides, I thought Americans only drank their own canned beers and not British Isle style pints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    No you are not. It just happens 79.6% Norwegian and the rest Spanish is a good approximation to where your Murican mutt background makes you plot in the G25 PCA.
    Wrong, the Normans were not 100% Viking but mixed with the local Latins in France. You are genetic turnip peasant kraut. We Normans had the Saxons reduced to eating rats and grass in England.

    As for being a mutt , wrong !, fail !, try again neo-nazi peasant :

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    Everyone knows the Normans were not 100% Viking because if they tried to go home to Norway or Denmark and claimed to be Vikings they would have been laughed out of Scandinavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Yes. But I am a strongbow man. Besides, I thought Americans only drank their own canned beers and not British Isle style pints.
    Americans drink shitty beer at home and good beer at bars/pubs. Even poor people drink good beer sometimes.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Frank (10.13)
    Viking Icelandic (10.34)
    Viking Danish (10.4)
    Saxon (10.79)

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    Belgae + Frank (5.797)
    Celt + Frank (6.031)
    Celt (6.297)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    Wrong, the Normans were not 100% Viking but mixed with the local Latins in France. You are genetic turnip peasant kraut. We Normans had the Saxons reduced to eating rats and grass in England.

    As for being a mutt , wrong !, fail !, try again neo-nazi peasant :

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    0.02865262 Dutch
    0.02966312 Norwegian
    0.03097093 Welsh

    Everyone knows the Normans were not 100% Viking because if they tried to go home to Norway or Denmark and claimed to be Vikings they would have been laughed out of Scandinavia.
    I would be cautious about referring the French as 'Latins'. They look more Northern European than med in my eyes.

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