The stupidity of the "Mediterranean" label for phenotypes.

[Gota_type_]

It is extremely stupid to consider southern Europeans as "Med" people as a group, like those in northern Africa or like many arabs. We obviously know that the differences are massive between south-europeans and north-africans, so I wonder who the hell invented the "Med" label and who the hell have put south Europeans (or many other from other parts of Europe) as "Meds"??

The differences are so huge that the term can´t be used unless someone is stupid. For example, this picture (5 Spaniards and an arab). I could have posted north-africans or any other "mediterranean " group. I know that north-africans or arabs are more semitic, even they have subsaharan and so on, but they are considered (and they consider themshelves) as a Med group. Can you spot the brutal differences??

So, after seeing this picture, how is that "Med" label still working? There is more closeness between an alpine (other classification label) and a euro-"med" than between meds from northern Africa and euro-"med". So, how is it that some people want to label the north-african and the south-europeans as meds?? I guess south-Europeans are no mediterranean in a phenotype level, so let´s stop using this stupid label. Only a 3-4% south Europeans are somehow similar to those from north-africa. Those like Raul or Busquets (which I don´t consider them white and I am from the same country than them). But, these types are only 3-4-5% of the population of south-Europe. The great majority look like the people in the picture (and no, I don´t look med at all, in fact, quite the contrary but I hate that "med" label since it is too stupid to be considered from a rational point of view.

[Gota_type_]

We can´t consider that non-having blond hair, blue eyes, or germanic features means that they are "med" as someone from outside Europe. The differences not just in skin tone and facial features are almost extreme to be considered like something relatively similar.

[Kivan]

Arabs and North Africans, with some few exceptions, don't look Med at all.

[TheMaestro]

The Arab is not even med, you know from what word is med derived from? Arab is a wide term also...

[alnortedelsur]

Which is what I always claim that Spaniards are far closer in genetics and looks (a vast majority of them) to other Europeans (even to Finns and Russians) than to North Africans or Arabs.

[sean]

[Ymyyakhtakh]

People like Coon were the original kangs whose mission was to claim MENAs like Egyptians, Mesopotamians, and Jesus. Therefore Coon had to say that 1) brown people are white and 2) depigmented wogs are the purest Nordics.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IV2.htm:

It can be shown that Sumerians who lived over five thousand years ago in Mesopotamia are almost identical in skull and face form with living Englishmen, and that predynastic Egyptian skulls can be matched both in a seventeenth century London plague pit, and in Neolithic cist-graves in Switzerland. Modern dolichocephalic whites or browns are very similar in head and face measurements and form. The Nordic race in the strict sense is merely a pigment phase of the Mediterranean.[3]

[Footnote 3: Popularly, the word "Nordic" is frequently applied to a blond or pigmentally intermediate conglomerate type or group of types in northern Europe, which contains other than blond Mediterranean elements.]

Coon called Egyptians and Berbers "wholly white" and he called Horners "partial whites" (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate20.htm):

In the deserts and highlands of Ethiopia, Eritrea, and the Somalilands is found a concentration of several related Mediterranean types, mixed in varying degrees with negroes. To the west these partial whites border on Sudanese negroes; to the southwest the partially Hamitic tribes of Kenya and Uganda form an extension of the peripheral Mediterranean racial area. To the north, the Beja-Bisharin group of Hamitic-speaking nomads connect the East African Hamitic-speaking peoples with their wholly white Egyptian and Berber relatives of North Africa.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Aren't you glad that you're part of the same race as these pure whites, and not us caveman survivors? (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate16.htm)

The Mediterranean Race in Arabia

The Mediterranean race, in the widest sense, is one of the two basic divisions of the white stock. Although varying greatly in stature, different varieties of Mediterraneans do not, as types, attain the bulk, either in head or body size, of the unreduced Upper Palaeolithic group; tall Mediterraneans, whether or not depigmented (partially depigmented Mediterraneans are Nordics) are usually slender. Small or moderate statured Mediterraneans are as a rule less lateral in build than reduced Upper Palaeolithic survivors.

The homeland of the Mediterranean race appears to lie somewhere between East Africa and the Mediterranean, between the Indian Ocean and the Caspian Sea, and between the Egyptian Delta and India. Arabia is centrally located within this general territory, and the parts of Arabia lying west and north of the Ruba' el Khali desert seem to be basic Mediterranean territory.

FIG. 1 (2 views). A youthful Yemeni from the desert-border tribe of Hadha. Facially he is a perfect example of a refined Mediterranean type; his head length is a little short, his stature a little tall, for the mean. He is a brunet-white in unexposed skin color, brunet in hair and eye color; narrower-faced than any of the Upper Palaeolithic survivors, reduced or unreduced, whom we have seen in the preceding plates. His forehead and jaw are both consistently narrow. It is a characteristic of the Mediterranean race, as of this individual, that the upper face height and nose height are great, no matter how small the other dimensions. Imagine this individual pink-skinned, blue-eyed, and blond-haired, and you will have a close approximation to a Nordic. There is no essential difference between the two races other than pigmentation. Both, however, are separated by a wide racial gap from the Upper Palaeolithic group.



FIG. 2 (2 views). Another Yemeni highlander, in this case from the escarpment tribe of Beni Madhar. This man is shorter in stature, and much longer-headed. He is mixed in eye color; some 25 per cent of all pure brunet Mediterranean groups possess a trace of incipient blondism. The cranial and facial dimensions of this individual resemble those of the larger, Atlanto-Mediterranean strain as found in western Europe and North Africa. In Arabia the two are not clearly differentiated.



FIG. 3 (2 views). A Yemeni soldier from the tribe of Khaulan, which goes back historically to Sabaean times. Metrically a perfect Mediterranean central type, this individual possesses a thin, aquiline nose of a type found frequently but by no means exclusively among Arabs.



FIG. 4 (2 views, photo Henry Field. Courtesy of the Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago). A Ruwalla Bedawin, a member of an aristocratic tribe of camel breeders who inhabit the Syrian desert. The Ruwalla, more brunet than the Yemenis, resemble them closely in most respects.



FIG. 5 (2 views, photo Henry Field. Courtesy of the Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago). A Solubbi; member of a small group of desert wanderers and outcasts who inhabit the North Arabian desert, travelling in small family groups and serving as hunters and tinkers for the Bedawin. They are the purest Mediterraneans in northern Arabia, and probably represent an extremely ancient element in the North Arabian population. This Solubbi may be considered a classical Mediterranean.



FIG. 6 (2 views, photo Henry Field. From Field, Henry, Arabs of Central Iraq, Anth. Mem. of the Field Museum of Natural History, vol. 4, 1935, Plate LXXX). A tall Mediterranean from Iraq. The Iraqians, who are apparently direct and unaltered descendants of the ancient Mesopotamians, are Mediterraneans. They are, however, on the whole taller, darker-skinned, longer-faced, and straighter-haired than the Arabs.

This is a Finn who is a racially pure Nordid because his gorgeous narrow faggot head makes him look like a depigmented Irano-Afghan (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate27.htm):

FIG. 1 (3 views). A Finn of predominantly Corded type; note the ash-blond hair and grayish eyes, the great head length, and extremely low cephalic index. In head and face proportions a resemblance is seen to the Corded-like Irano-Afghan sub-type, a resemblance which is enhanced if pigmentation differences are ignored. Both metrically and morphologically this individual is seen to be fully Mediterranean; there is no evidence of Upper Palaeolithic admixture.

[Creoda]

I don't believe in standard classifications but nearly all of these look Med to me, as in they pass in countries in and around the Mediterranean but not in Northern Europe. Med is one of the soundest descriptions there is and I consider most Southern Europeans (excluding Balkan Slavs) to be Med in appearance.

[Atlantid]

Mediterraneans are all over Europe. Almost every major figure in European history had a Med element, whether English, French, German, or Italian.

Arabs are not Meds, and only some North Africans are, but the two have a significant SSA element. The Mediterranean is progressive and refined - he has a noble look.

Aristotle and Michelangelo are good examples.

Mediterranean - Aristotle


Atlantid (50/50 Med-Nordid) - Plato