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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Forget about discussing with that "gota_type" he claimed that there are millions and millions of spaniards lighter than French and that that genetically they are the same people, just

    I've mentionned Britanny that's closer to Icelandic people than to Central French, let alone Spaniards

    He also said that I would look like a "mulatto" in front of him. He's a sickening southern european nordicist who's complexed by med phenotypes.

    He really doesn't care of all anthropological and genetical studies, he goes by his "experience", because he has surely seen millions of blonde-haired italians and spaniards... Except that he was dreaming.
    Funny how you try to distort reality because you feel butthurted.

    1. I said that millions of Spaniards (lighter types) are lightern than millions of French (darker types). And it is a fact. Why are you denying that millions of people like the Spaniards I put in the previous comment are lighter than millions of Francoise Holande or Marcron types?? Anyone with eyes can see it.

    2. "Genetically the same people". When did I say that? You wish you were similar to us. I probably said that the differences in composition between the average Spaniard and French are tiny (in Neolithic Farmers, Yamanya and Old Western Hunter Gatherers). So the base is quite similar with little differences. Not trying to look french, quite the contrary, stating facts. It is you the one who try to sell the idea as "Southern Europe is a different thing" as you said. We are extremely proud of being what we are and compared to France you are ridiculous in most senses. Just letting you know that in the last 500 years Spain has been the most powerful country in the World: 250 years of world domination vs 70 years of USA being a superpower and 0 years of France power in the world. You were just a regional potence for 20-30 years in western Europe and that Napoleon bastard should be treated as an enemy of Europe (he killed 500.000 Spaniards and destroyed incredible monuments and robbed us our treasuries; for example). I could talk many other things just so you stop distorting reality and stop your ridiculous chovinism. You lose against Spain in most comparations.

    3. "Nordicist complexed with med phenotypes". LOL. I don´t know how I lose my time with this clown. I am not nordicist (it is just my phenotype) and I don´t have a problem with the "med" thing, the problem is how the "med" label is sold, which it is absolutely something stupid . And also the problem is about ignorants saying that Spain is full of "Med" phenotypes while France is some sort of central-Europeans-Alpine people, when all your people pass unnoticed in Spain. ALL. And millions of Spaniards are not "med" at all. MILLIONS. Nothing wrong about "Med" but I am informing you about reality of my country. And there are millions of french people that are also "Med" if we follow your logic. In fact, the "med" type is the most common idea of what a french looks like by international standards. No different than a italian or a Spaniard. And don´t say too much about this because you are soon to be considered a proper african country. Just look at all your national teams (90% african) or your newborns (30% of them african). So, the future french will be a proper mulatto by definition.

    4. It is you who does not believe in anthropological studies. It is you who is distorting reality. You can see by this post that it is you who is trying to sell a different idea of what people is, denying real things like there are hundred of thousands of blond-blue eyed Spaniards. How can you say that this sentence is false?? Do you live here? Hundred of thousands is less than 5% Spaniards. So I could even have said 1.5 million and it could be probably right, so I chose the conservative number, and you even deny it. What a joke you are!

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    Arabid and Berberid are not Med phenotypes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    Bro, they're not even exotic. The guys in the paintings I mean. They look purely Southern European, maybe with some Levantine leanings. Nothing mullato about them, tbh.

    You dislike darkwashing and all that, but then in the same breath you would quickly call out European features as pseudo "mullatoid" or "MENA". I mean, I don't know, but doesn't that go against your cause?
    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    The men in the paintings are extremely Spanish looking, but according to some Spaniards and Italians here someone can only look typical for their ethnicities if they are "Northern shifted" and good looking.

    Reality:




    Your distorted picture:




    How you can´t see how extremely distorted your picture is?? Don´t you see how the ink, colour, contrast is used to sell the idea of a mulatto-mixed individual? I guess people don´t have eyes on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    Bro, they're not even exotic. The guys in the paintings I mean. They look purely Southern European, maybe with some Levantine leanings. Nothing mullato about them, tbh.

    You dislike darkwashing and all that, but then in the same breath you would quickly call out European features as pseudo "mullatoid" or "MENA". I mean, I don't know, but doesn't that go against your cause?
    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    The men in the paintings are extremely Spanish looking, but according to some Spaniards and Italians here someone can only look typical for their ethnicities if they are "Northern shifted" and good looking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shelati View Post
    I agree. It's very sad that some of them have this complex. I mean, yes, I understand that it's annoying and angering that some would lump North Africans and very woggy people among them. But to totally deny the Med race within them is just unfortunate, pitiful and bordering on self-hate. For me, the most beautiful and handsome Spanish people are the Mediterranean looking ones. The 'lighter' ones look like boring, generic Europeans.

    Spoiler!
    I am from Spain and the only one I recognize is Mario Casas. Are you sure the rest are real Spaniards?? Can you post their names? I am sure some of them are not from my country. And you have chosed the most mediterranean looking as if their types were an average here. Not at all. We have millions that don´t look like them but more Atlantid, Atlanto_med, and even other lighter types. Spain is not like one thing and those meds are not even the majority. They are like 40-60% of the people, and then another 40-60% look central or even north European (a 10-20% minority).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Lol. It's Spain that's a lot more darker than France, let me laugh, here (Alpine France) there is blondism like in Northern Europe in frequence, I'm not joking, old anthropological studies confirm also that.

    Other northern regions have also a lot more light eyes and light hair than Catalonia, Aragon or whatever ...
    That is not what I am discussing, for God sake.
    I am affirming that the millions of light haired Spaniards are obviously lighter than the millions of dark haired French. The nomenclature itself makes it clear: LIGHTER ⇾ DARKER.

    So this guy Gota Type is right when he claims there are tons of Spaniards lighter than many French.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post


    How they can be lighter if they have the same coloring ?
    I consider myself for example lighter than this dark eyed dark haired French, Frederic Hermel


    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post
    How you can´t see how extremely distorted your picture is?? Don´t you see how the ink, colour, contrast is used to sell the idea of a mulatto-mixed individual? I guess people don´t have eyes on them.
    They are not the same person. You have posted Hernán Cortés, he posted Francisco Pizarro. But yes, he chose his darker picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post
    I am from Spain and the only one I recognize is Mario Casas. Are you sure the rest are real Spaniards?? Can you post their names? I am sure some of them are not from my country.
    The first is an Andalusian actor, I dont remember his name.
    The second was an Andalusian bullfighter. Iván Fandińo. He died two or three years ago.
    No idea about the third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post
    Reality:




    Your distorted picture:




    How you can´t see how extremely distorted your picture is?? Don´t you see how the ink, colour, contrast is used to sell the idea of a mulatto-mixed individual? I guess people don´t have eyes on them.
    Dude, regardless of the pic being dark or not, the guy's features are extremely Spanish. And he doesn't look mulato at all, no sane person would think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Forget about discussing with that "gota_type" he claimed that there are millions and millions of spaniards lighter than French and that that genetically they are the same people, just

    I've mentionned Britanny that's closer to Icelandic people than to Central French, let alone Spaniards

    He also said that I would look like a "mulatto" in front of him. He's a sickening southern european nordicist who's complexed by med phenotypes.

    He really doesn't care of all anthropological and genetical studies, he goes by his "experience", because he has surely seen millions of blonde-haired italians and spaniards... Except that he was dreaming.
    A Southern European Nordicist? Ha!ha!ha! Spain and Portugal are well among the most Mediterranid racial countries in Europe! That’s a fact. Ok, Spaniards are lighter than French people from Former colonies, not ethnic French. The most dominant Caucasoid race in France is Alpinid not Mediterranid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    That is not what I am discussing, for God sake.
    I am affirming that the millions of light haired Spaniards are obviously lighter than the millions of dark haired French. The nomenclature itself makes it clear: LIGHTER ⇾ DARKER.

    So this guy Gota Type is right when he claims there are tons of Spaniards lighter than many French.


    I consider myself for example lighter than this dark eyed dark haired French, Frederic Hermel



    They are not the same person. You have posted Hernán Cortés, he posted Francisco Pizarro. But yes, he chose his darker picture.


    The first is an Andalusian actor, I dont remember his name.
    The second was an Andalusian bullfighter. Iván Fandińo. He died two or three years ago.
    No idea about the third.
    Stop your nonsense! Spain is never lighter than France. If you don’t think so, wear your glasses. You should compare yourself to the Portuguese, Italians or something like that. You are making me laugh out loud, Spaniard Nordicist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post
    Funny how you try to distort reality because you feel butthurted.

    1. I said that millions of Spaniards (lighter types) are lightern than millions of French (darker types). And it is a fact. Why are you denying that millions of people like the Spaniards I put in the previous comment are lighter than millions of Francoise Holande or Marcron types?? Anyone with eyes can see it.

    2. "Genetically the same people". When did I say that? You wish you were similar to us. I probably said that the differences in composition between the average Spaniard and French are tiny (in Neolithic Farmers, Yamanya and Old Western Hunter Gatherers). So the base is quite similar with little differences. Not trying to look french, quite the contrary, stating facts. It is you the one who try to sell the idea as "Southern Europe is a different thing" as you said. We are extremely proud of being what we are and compared to France you are ridiculous in most senses. Just letting you know that in the last 500 years Spain has been the most powerful country in the World: 250 years of world domination vs 70 years of USA being a superpower and 0 years of France power in the world. You were just a regional potence for 20-30 years in western Europe and that Napoleon bastard should be treated as an enemy of Europe (he killed 500.000 Spaniards and destroyed incredible monuments and robbed us our treasuries; for example). I could talk many other things just so you stop distorting reality and stop your ridiculous chovinism. You lose against Spain in most comparations.

    3. "Nordicist complexed with med phenotypes". LOL. I don´t know how I lose my time with this clown. I am not nordicist (it is just my phenotype) and I don´t have a problem with the "med" thing, the problem is how the "med" label is sold, which it is absolutely something stupid . And also the problem is about ignorants saying that Spain is full of "Med" phenotypes while France is some sort of central-Europeans-Alpine people, when all your people pass unnoticed in Spain. ALL. And millions of Spaniards are not "med" at all. MILLIONS. Nothing wrong about "Med" but I am informing you about reality of my country. And there are millions of french people that are also "Med" if we follow your logic. In fact, the "med" type is the most common idea of what a french looks like by international standards. No different than a italian or a Spaniard. And don´t say too much about this because you are soon to be considered a proper african country. Just look at all your national teams (90% african) or your newborns (30% of them african). So, the future french will be a proper mulatto by definition.

    4. It is you who does not believe in anthropological studies. It is you who is distorting reality. You can see by this post that it is you who is trying to sell a different idea of what people is, denying real things like there are hundred of thousands of blond-blue eyed Spaniards. How can you say that this sentence is false?? Do you live here? Hundred of thousands is less than 5% Spaniards. So I could even have said 1.5 million and it could be probably right, so I chose the conservative number, and you even deny it. What a joke you are!
    Francois Hollande is not dark by Spanish standards. The guy is an “archetypal” West Alpinid! Macron is definitely not “Spanish-looking” and is lighter with I think light eyes too. I would never mistake these folks for Spaniards or Italians. Hollande Alpinid looks is “too French” for me, the likes of Chirac, Mitterrand, D’Estaing, Pompidou

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