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    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Yeah because thinking a country where you can get AK 47 at walmart has any sort of accountability of the weapon trade is totally outrageous and out of mind right?
    Don't hold America accountable for what ugly, primitive brown people who don't belong there are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    LOL nice fanfic. Do you happen to think the US went to Iraq to eliminate WOMD and bring democracy there too?
    Mexico has been a shithole since the independence war for many of the same reasons lots of countries in Latin America were, they have always had some war or revolution going on in their borders since they broke off from Spain.

    A lot of it is a domestic issue because of latin mongrels and people like Santa Anna. Also the stability brought in by 70 years of one party dictatorship didn't really help them so much as it turned corruption into the only way to go. Then the drug war was the tip of the iceberg.

    The CIA don't outright control the Mexican cartels, far from it. The CIA undoubtedly have people in every cartel but don't control them. The cartels control all the human/drug trafficking into the US. The CIA at least nominally are trying to reduce that with US military and law enforcement (other major world powers are doing the opposite).

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Yeah because speaking ill openly of a very negative, armed, powerful group can only have good consequences right?
    Many Mexicans speak almost positively about the major drug cartels in Mexico, like they're sport teams, or with the kind of attitude that they almost have a respect for these criminal enterprises. Why?

    Because Mexico has had a lot of caudillos, or outlaws that become great heroes in the popular mind, so this outlaw way of thinking is praised in some sectors, mostly in low income sectors, they dream of making it big, owning cars, houses and fucking beautiful women, just like negroes in the US they want fame and fortune fast and easy, cartels are the same, latin mongrels who want fame and fortune and the only way to get them is becoming narco because either they are ugly as fuck, indio and or illiterate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Canada is more of a mongrel nation than most of Latin America.
    How can Canada be a mongrel nation when it was purely Anglo until at least the 1970's? And 95% White until the 1990's? Pretty hilarious given how Latin America is a massive genetic mixing pot. Projecting much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Your IQ must be in the 80's levels just like most of these mongrels but you're worse because you're firmly in the autistic spectrum too, as are most white males today.
    No, tested in the 130's my whole life. I think I got close to 140 once. Was given an IQ test at a trading firm.

    Mexico's average IQ is 88. A nation of bastards, literally created from rape, brought up in a lazy decadent mongrel druggie/alcoholic culture.
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    The most anti white, ethnic victimization focused guy I ever seen, is on a Forum supposed to be eurocentric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Yeah, if your remove drug related violence, Mexico actually has lower violent crime than USA. But still, AMLO should tell the US to mind their business and stop the war of drugs. Its a useless war that the Americans exported to other people's shores. Mexico could be a great place to live if the drug war stuff never started. What's your opinion?
    That's not a fair comparison since most murders in the US are also drug and gang related.

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    The most anti white, ethnic victimization focused guy I ever seen, is on a Forum supposed to be eurocentric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Don't hold America accountable for what ugly, primitive brown people who don't belong there are doing.
    Why not? They're responsible of heightening whatever bad things they were doing down there.

    Have some responsibility and take account of it. Only niggers dodge their responsibilities.


    Mexico has been a shithole since the independence war for many of the same reasons lots of countries in Latin America were, they have always had some war or revolution going on in their borders since they broke off from Spain.
    And one of the main reasons (shared with other country) is constant outside interventions and puppets.

    A lot of it is a domestic issue because of latin mongrels and people like Santa Anna. Also the stability brought in by 70 years of one party dictatorship didn't really help them so much as it turned corruption into the only way to go. Then the drug war was the tip of the iceberg.
    LOL @ 70 years old party stability. So 70 years in Mexico is good but a president wins 3 elections in the middle east and everyone loses their heads.

    The CIA don't outright control the Mexican cartels, far from it. The CIA undoubtedly have people in every cartel but don't control them. The cartels control all the human/drug trafficking into the US. The CIA at least nominally are trying to reduce that with US military and law enforcement (other major world powers are doing the opposite).

    By selling them weapons and by your own admission, joining every cartel?

    Many Mexicans speak almost positively about the major drug cartels in Mexico, like they're sport teams, or with the kind of attitude that they almost have a respect for these criminal enterprises. Why?
    I constantly see white boys talking about having gun rights and own large gun arsenals. If that's not thug culture then what it is? Also, America's biggest export is gangsta rap and culture.

    Because Mexico has had a lot of caudillos, or outlaws that become great heroes in the popular mind, so this outlaw way of thinking is praised in some sectors, mostly in low income sectors, they dream of making it big, owning cars, houses and fucking beautiful women, just like negroes in the US they want fame and fortune fast and easy, cartels are the same, latin mongrels who want fame and fortune and the only way to get them is becoming narco because either they are ugly as fuck, indio and or illiterate.
    Every revolutionary was an outlaw. Spaniards who fought the moors were outlaws in their mind. Americans who fought for independence were outlaws in the eyes of the British. Finns who fought the continuation war were outlaws in the eyes of Soviets. Palestinians are outlaws in the eyes of Israeli. The Confederates were considered outlaws by the Yanks.

    If the Mexican heroes are outlaws in the eyes of a dumb canadian faggot it's irrelevant.

    How can Canada be a mongrel nation when it was purely Anglo until at least the 1970's? And 95% White until the 1990's? Pretty hilarious given how Latin America is a massive genetic mixing pot. Projecting much?
    How can it not?
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    Canadian 32.3%, English 18.3%, Scottish 13.9%, French 13.6%, Irish 13.4%, German 9.6%, Chinese 5.1%, Italian 4.6%, North American Indian 4.4%, East Indian 4%, other 51.6% (2016 est.)
    Note: percentages add up to more than 100% because respondents were able to identify more than one ethnic origin (2016 est.)

    Canadian 32.2%, English 19.8%, French 15.5%, Scottish 14.4%, Irish 13.8%, German 9.8%, Italian 4.5%, Chinese 4.5%, North American Indian 4.2%, other 50.9%
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    Even the most mongrelized LAtAm country would envy this diversity.


    No, tested in the 130's my whole life. I think I got close to 140 once. Was given an IQ test at a trading firm.

    Mexico's average IQ is 88. A nation of bastards, literally created from rape, brought up in a lazy decadent mongrel druggie/alcoholic culture.
    Anyone scoring 130 consistently in internet tests is likely 90 or lower in real life. Good fanfic excuse there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    That's not how the drug war works, the Cartels took over the country during peaceful times and made it bloody; your view is very uneducated in the matter.
    No, cartels have been around in Mexico for a very long time and violence was never this high until the American government started to pour deadly weapons to Mexico where they would supply these cartels

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Don't hold America accountable for what ugly, primitive brown people who don't belong there are doing.



    Mexico has been a shithole since the independence war for many of the same reasons lots of countries in Latin America were, they have always had some war or revolution going on in their borders since they broke off from Spain.

    A lot of it is a domestic issue because of latin mongrels and people like Santa Anna. Also the stability brought in by 70 years of one party dictatorship didn't really help them so much as it turned corruption into the only way to go. Then the drug war was the tip of the iceberg.

    The CIA don't outright control the Mexican cartels, far from it. The CIA undoubtedly have people in every cartel but don't control them. The cartels control all the human/drug trafficking into the US. The CIA at least nominally are trying to reduce that with US military and law enforcement (other major world powers are doing the opposite).



    Many Mexicans speak almost positively about the major drug cartels in Mexico, like they're sport teams, or with the kind of attitude that they almost have a respect for these criminal enterprises. Why?

    Because Mexico has had a lot of caudillos, or outlaws that become great heroes in the popular mind, so this outlaw way of thinking is praised in some sectors, mostly in low income sectors, they dream of making it big, owning cars, houses and fucking beautiful women, just like negroes in the US they want fame and fortune fast and easy, cartels are the same, latin mongrels who want fame and fortune and the only way to get them is becoming narco because either they are ugly as fuck, indio and or illiterate.



    How can Canada be a mongrel nation when it was purely Anglo until at least the 1970's? And 95% White until the 1990's? Pretty hilarious given how Latin America is a massive genetic mixing pot. Projecting much?



    No, tested in the 130's my whole life. I think I got close to 140 once. Was given an IQ test at a trading firm.

    Mexico's average IQ is 88. A nation of bastards, literally created from rape, brought up in a lazy decadent mongrel druggie/alcoholic culture.
    Shut up, you are from Canada and have no idea what is going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Why are Mexicans dying in their own streets over US drug policy? Why should Mexicans die in their country over the addiction problems of a foreign nations. I was reading a book written by a British journalist who currently lives in CDMX, and their a chapter discussing how peaceful cities and towns that had a murder rate of 1 in 100,000 spiked up in a single year to a murder rate of 20 in 100,000 in 2006, when Fillipe calderon initiated the Drug war at Washington's auspices. There are cases where US intelligences agencies use cladestine drug money as a slash fund to support covert operation (hence no longer dependent on congressional funding for some controversial operations). Mexicans need to tell the Americans to BTFO over their draconian and backward-ass drug policies.
    The new president has been working very hard to lower the crimes in Mexico that are majority caused by these war on drag that Felipe Calderon started. One of the problems is living next to the USA and that is because they consume way too much drug, so even if there are no cartels in Mexico, cartels elsewhere can be formed and use Mexico to ship in drugs, which is what Colombian cartels did when Mexico basically had no cartels in that era. You also had Cubans who were involved in drug trafficking in the USA who then would move to Northern Mexico and start their own little crew of drug traffickers.

    Mexico is just in a fucked up place because no matter what, drug crime will always exist as long as Americans exist and that is the truth


    We also know the CIA and FBI are heavily involved in the drug trade, even Mexican cartel leaders have said how the American government have helped them get the power they been wanting. So when you have a corrupt American government and a corrupt Mexican government, how can Mexico achieve anything when it comes to eliminating cartels and the drug war?

    The drug war started not because Felipe wanted to clean Mexico up from the mess, it started because he wanted to eliminate rivals from the cartel that was funding him. The cartel that was funding him was the Sinaloa Cartel in which he would meet up with these people in his home and in private places. He didn't start a war to help Mexico but to help the Sinaloa Cartel gain more power in the country. That is the truth about this drug war. Now the American government knew about this because they were also working with them, look up the story of Vicente Zambada the son of Mayo Zambada (the creator of the Sinaloa Cartel), Vicente actually exposes both the American and Mexican government and how both governments promised him freedom.

    El Chapo is just in invention, the American and Mexican government know for a fact that the one in power is not and had never been El Chapo but Mayo Zambada, the man who has never ever been caught, still has millions of dollars, owns multi-million dollar companies in the country, has businesses in the USA. This is a man that the American and Mexican government has never went after at all.



    Now let's look at the Fast and Furious case
    ""Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic used by the Arizona U.S. Attorney's Office and the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations between 2006 and 2011 in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them""


    Because American people are very stupid and think their government never gets involved in other governments. So the American government decided to arm cartels in order to "track" them down and arrest them, in which they never were arrested or tracked. Over 90% of the weapons found in cartel war battles or homes, belonged to ATF aka America







    Los Zetas were trained in the USA, they were the first cartel to use similar killing styles and tortures as "ISIS" because we know for a fact that ISIS are an American government creation

    "Some of the cartel's initial members were elite Mexican troops, trained in the early 1990s by America’s 7th Special Forces Group or "snake eaters" at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina, a former US special operations commander.

    “They were given map reading courses, communications, standard special forces training, light to heavy weapons, machine guns and automatic weapons,” says Craig Deare, the former special forces commander who is now a professor at the US National Defence University.

    "I had some visibility on what was happening, because this [issue] was related to things I was doing in the Pentagon in the 1990s," Deare, who also served as country director in the office of the US Secretary of Defence, says.

    The Mexican personnel who received US training and later formed the Zetas came from the Airmobile Special Forces Group (GAFE), which is considered an elite division of the Mexican military."




    Los Zetas were the ones who introduce the skinning of people, killing their enemies or innocent people in acid, hanging their rivals or innocent people from a bridge among other very savage methods




    As long as America stays quiet and does nothing to stop the drug usage in the nation or stop spending deadly weapons over to arm cartels, this violence will never stop but continue
    But knowing Americans especially the retarded American people who believe everything and anything their government says, there will be nothing done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Why not? They're responsible of heightening whatever bad things they were doing down there. Have some responsibility and take account of it. Only niggers dodge their responsibilities.
    The biggest number of gun related deaths in the US is from gang violence (inter-city negroes and latin mongrels). The average law abiding gun owner never causes any problems and rarely if ever has to use the guns they own. So your point is moot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    And one of the main reasons (shared with other country) is constant outside interventions and puppets.
    No, Mexico has been a shithole from the beginning. When Spain left Mexico, in just 20 years they already had a dictator, who then went on to be a total tyrant, causing rebellions to sprawl across the land. Then of course that dictator ended up reducing the size of his country, after a total war with the US, like a moron. Later on it seemed like Mexico was on it's way to becoming a prosperous country, but of course, the citizens who weren't rich were treated badly and that caused a violent revolution (where mind you, took many new appointed Mexican Presidents to die in order for the revolution to end, because of infighting). After that, a corporatist regime that had fascist ideals ruled till 2000, which of course during those days there was little progress and many huge figures were corrupt. Even worse, the cartels and drug production started in the 60s and Mexico became the hotspot for it.

    Even after the Cold War, Mexico was still in a shithole status. With corruption amongst politicians and cartels literally ruling all the Mexican states. Mexican military having to do the police's job because most policeman work for the cartels and are just arseholes. Even the Mexican military could be corrupt too as they still can't get rid of the cartels roaming. Yes, USA has meddled in Mexico, but to say that Mexico is the way it is because of the USA shows a serious ignorance of Mexican history. It's akin to blaming Europeans for the state of Africa despite Europe elevating Africa from the Stone/Early Bronze Age to modernity and massively improving the continent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    LOL @ 70 years old party stability. So 70 years in Mexico is good but a president wins 3 elections in the middle east and everyone loses their heads.
    Actually, the first 4 presidents of PRI got things done, despite their socialist ways (allowed the Cuban revolution to be plotted from there), but nepotism started to flourish among them. They would become more and more oppressive and corrupt as time went on, until finally falling for the neoliberal nonsense in the 80s, dropping most of their socialism. They split as a result and lost after 70 years or so of ruling Mexico uninterrupted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    By selling them weapons and by your own admission, joining every cartel?
    The things that are happening today in America are things that the CIA and DEA tried avoiding 30-50 years ago and the drug war helped them prevent it. It's the nature of running a state, to spy on your neighbours and enemies. This is common sense. However, this is neither the root cause nor a significant reason for the current state of your miserable country.

    The CIA was founded in 1947, Mexico gained it's independence and was recognised as a country in 1810. Since its independence your nation has achieved nothing. Your generals lost your most precious states, the French annexed your shithole, you were run by several commies and a safe haven for all kinds of red menace. Everything in your country is run by a handful of people and your entire government is cucked by the cartels. Really, is that all the CIA's fault? Seems to me the problem is far more rooted in post-Spanish rule and oligarchies that go as far back as the conquest of Mexico by Cortes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    I constantly see white boys talking about having gun rights and own large gun arsenals. If that's not thug culture then what it is? Also, America's biggest export is gangsta rap and culture.
    The most violent cities in the world are all in Latin America and they all have strict gun control.

    The USA armed population is probably one of the largest armies the world has ever seen, not to mention a gun protects your life, liberty, and your pursuit of happiness from authority. There is no direct connection to your life being threatened by guns but by people who use guns to commit already protected against violations of your rights. This means, people kill, gun ownership does not make one a potential murderer anymore than a car makes one a potential drunken driver. Shall we eliminate all motor vehicles to stop irresponsible people from killing people with them.

    Ah, gangsta rap. Truly your people's music.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Every revolutionary was an outlaw. Spaniards who fought the moors were outlaws in their mind. Americans who fought for independence were outlaws in the eyes of the British. Finns who fought the continuation war were outlaws in the eyes of Soviets. Palestinians are outlaws in the eyes of Israeli. The Confederates were considered outlaws by the Yanks. If the Mexican heroes are outlaws in the eyes of a dumb canadian faggot it's irrelevant.
    Nope, except Mexicans adore criminal folk heroes. It is an old tradition dating back to the revolution when a criminal and the original drug lord Pancho Villa started trading illegal tequila to yanks, whom later became governor and instituted the current Mexican laws that are basically a recipe for anarchism and also left a positive even though idiotic idea in the Mexican minds which basically dictates that anything illegal is positive.

    Mexico is a nation of banditos. It always has been. They are wild Spanish speaking mongrels that have always glorified crime, chaos, and all manner of scoundrelism. They are not so much a nation as a large territory of bandit hideouts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    How can it not? Even the most mongrelized LAtAm country would envy this diversity.
    And? Race mixing is rare in Canada, the most common race mixing you see is WMAF. Everything else is rare. In fact, implicit racism is more common than you think, especially against non-whites.

    Notice how the first Prime Minister of Canada talks about the dangers of race mixing:

    If you look around the world you will see that the Aryan races will not wholesomely amalgamate with the Africans and the Asiatics . . . It is not to be desired that they should come; that we should have a mongrel race; that the Aryan character of the future of British America should be destroyed by a cross or crosses of that kind . . . (T)he cross of those races, like the cross of a dog and a fox, is not successful.
    On the other hand, your people are the product of rape. Your ancestor whatever muddy brown ugly thing it was, sucking on smelly yeasty Spaniard dick, should have aborted your kind, if she so desired, which she likely did and simply didn't have so easy means to achieve it, nor so welcoming a society to her intents.

    I have yet to meet a single latin mongrel that didn't start spouting excuses about why it's their culture to simply allow crime to fester in every facet of their lives. Nothing is ever their fault; they're always the victim which is why they'll never be better than they are.

    All of their countries, communities and families are shit because they ALL look the other way, make excuses and pretend not to notice little things like drug dealing, rape, a bit of torture, some murder, eating human hearts, just so long as they've got money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skengdo View Post
    Anyone scoring 130 consistently in internet tests is likely 90 or lower in real life. Good fanfic excuse there.
    Nice try, but I am not talking about gay Internet tests that always exaggerate by 15-20 points. Canada has GATE programs that is essentially a side-option in schools here. Ex-GATE student here myself. How it worked to the best of my memory was you were allowed to transfer in in Grade 1, Grade 6 or Grade 10, with the test you selected being a part of it but also that you had to get an IQ test done at a registered location. If you passed the screening test and your IQ was over the threshold they were looking for, you got accepted in.
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