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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    What is Arabian blood? Define that.
    What you didn't understand in my answer? If someone have ethnic Arabian ancestry from the Arabian Peninsula then he is Arab, that's what makes someone an Arab (it least that's what I think).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    If Arab is someone with Arab blood then only Bedouins and some sedentary families scattered across MENA region are Arabs. All others are Arabized Syriacs, Persians, Copts, Berbers, Nubians etc.
    Yes that's probably true.
    So from what I understand Levanite Christians and North Africans are Arabinized by culture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbat14 View Post
    If someone have ethnic Arabian ancestry from the Arabian Peninsula then he is Arab, that's what makes someone an Arab (it least that's what I think).
    The region stretching from the Arabian Sea to the Atlantic Ocean is identified as the "Arab World" even though there are different races.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serbat14 View Post
    So from what I understand Levanite Christians and North Africans are Arabinized by culture
    If it is by culture, then what do Levantine Christians and North Africans have in common with Somalis, Sudanese, Comorians, Saudis, Mauritanians, Djiboutis, Libyans, Moroccans, Yemenis, Bahreinisto name few?
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    I wonder what is the difference between Arabs and Bedouins? Are they same people or not? Is it right to say that Arabs are sedentary people and Bedouins are nomads? I heard that Bedouins in Israel perceived as more loyal people than Arabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsen_ View Post
    I wonder what is the difference between Arabs and Bedouins? Are they same people or not? Is it right to say that Arabs are sedentary people and Bedouins are nomads? I heard that Bedouins in Israel perceived as more loyal people than Arabs.
    Bedouins are pure unmixed Arabs with tribal structure (but in Africa they are mixed with nomadic Berbers, Bejas, Zaghawas and Fulanis). Simple Arab is an Arabic-speaking city-dweller or sedentary farmer (often of mixed origin).

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    1. Last name. Association is based on your father's ethnicity/Race.

    2. Probably because we speak Arabic?

    Also, Maronites in general do not have Arabian blood. Based on GEDmatches, it seems like the Orthodox Christians have the highest Red Sea.

    Also, in the distant past, the Levant was more Arabian as it is now, so it is kind of a mute point.

    Lastly, Northern Levantines are of great distance of Arabians/Bedouins in G25. I plot with many different European groups before BedouinB.

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    Arabization was imposed by force on Middle Eastern Christians, so a Christian 'Mansour' from the Levant and a Muslim 'Mansour' from North Africa or Arabia don't actually share the same lineages.

    Still, many Levantine Christian surnames are plain and simple Aramaic: Haddad, Semaan, Shamoun

    Some of Greek origin: Kyriacos, Constantin

    And of course Biblical ones, arabized or not: Elias, Boutros (Peter), Boulos (Paul), Hanna (John), Gebrael etc

    And of course the most common Levantine Christian surname, Khoury, which literally means Priest.

    Generally speaking it's very easy to tell if someone is Christian just by their names. Sometimes you can even guess if someone is Catholic or Orthodox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorgo View Post
    Arabization was imposed by force on Middle Eastern Christians, so a Christian 'Mansour' from the Levant and a Muslim 'Mansour' from North Africa or Arabia don't actually share the same lineages.

    Still, many Levantine Christian surnames are plain and simple Aramaic: Haddad, Semaan, Shamoun

    Some of Greek origin: Kyriacos, Constantin

    And of course Biblical ones, arabized or not: Elias, Boutros (Peter), Boulos (Paul), Hanna (John), Gebrael etc

    And of course the most common Levantine Christian surname, Khoury, which literally means Priest.

    Generally speaking it's very easy to know if someone is Christian just by their names. Sometimes you can even guess if someone is Catholic or Orthodox.
    I know of an Assyrian by Samaan.

    My cousins last name is Haddad. The last name is also popular with Sephardic Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdelnour View Post
    I know of an Assyrian by Samaan.

    My cousins last name is Haddad. The last name is also popular with Sephardic Jews.
    Other Levantine Christian surnames: Abdel Nour, Abdel Massih (Servant of Christ), Kassab, Fares, Karam, Saliba, Maalouf, Khalil, Salloum, Touma, Tannous, Antoun, Mikhael, Youssef, Yacoub, Younan

    As one can see, mostly a mix of Syriac, Arabized Biblical and Greek-derived names.


    One thing I noticed is that some Lebanese Christians (most likely Maronites) have Latin-derived surnames, which is unusual for other Levantine Christians: Romanos, Germanos, Frances, Stefan

    Other surnames I associate mostly with Lebanese Christians: Helou, Slim, Skaf, Harb, Sarkis, Aoun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorgo View Post
    Arabization was imposed by force on Middle Eastern Christians, so a Christian 'Mansour' from the Levant and a Muslim 'Mansour' from North Africa or Arabia don't actually share the same lineages.

    Still, many Levantine Christian surnames are plain and simple Aramaic: Haddad, Semaan, Shamoun

    Some of Greek origin: Kyriacos, Constantin

    And of course Biblical ones, arabized or not: Elias, Boutros (Peter), Boulos (Paul), Hanna (John), Gebrael etc

    And of course the most common Levantine Christian surname, Khoury, which literally means Priest.

    Generally speaking it's very easy to tell if someone is Christian just by their names. Sometimes you can even guess if someone is Catholic or Orthodox.
    Do mountain Christians of all denominations (Tur-Abdin, Lebanon, Hakkari and other regions) trace their ancestry from famous cities of Middle East (Baghdad, Mosul, Antiochia, Damascus, Aleppo, Jerusalem etc)?

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