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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Get black pilled


    I love the typical doomer template, random dreary landscapes, a still of an obscure book cover, glitchy frame transitions; magnifique. I think that it's probably all true though, made me question my drone like optimism and the fragile nature of capitalism.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    I doubt it. Hitlers ideologies would’ve died when he did. He wasn’t very liked anyway by some of his staff. I think democracy + capitalism would’ve won sooner or later if 3R won the war
    Actually, some of his crew was even more fanatic than him. Remember how Hitler saved Jew, Jew mixed people around him, meanwhile Himmler wanted to purge them. Natsoc would be diluted into a national socialism without eugenics kind of extreme things. But, their revolution would be permanent, since SS was much more concrete minded than other paramilitary forces. And I think even Rommel alike aristocratic military wing was red pilled about world and what would happen gradually, if they allowed democracy and 2% owned media, banks etc.
    For democracy part, I think it's overrated. Give people good life standards, homes, waifus and you are okay. Just look at Libya, they seek welfared Gaddafi dictatorship these days.

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    Kanye west?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nittionia View Post
    Kanye west?
    He is immortal he cant fall.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Attacking "sports ball" at the 7:54 mark. Ouch. I was a great football player in high school, Al Bundy level
    […] Regarding the degenerated forms of asceticism, I would like to point out the spirit of a phenomenon that is more properly connected to the plane of "work" (that is, of the fourth caste). The modem world knows a sublimated version of work in which the latter becomes "disinterested," disjoined from the economic factor and from the idea of a practical or productive goal and takes an almost ascetic form; I am talking about sport. Sport is a way of working in which the productive objective no longer matters; thus, sport is willed for its own sake as mere activity. Someone has rightly pointed out that sport is the "blue collar" religion. " Sport is a typical counterfeit of action in the traditional sense of the word. A pointless activity, it is nevertheless still characterized by the same triviality of work and belongs to the same physical and lightless group of activities that are pursued at the various crossroads in which plebeian contamination occurs. Although through the practice of sport it is possible to achieve a temporary evocation of deep forces, what this amounts to is the enjoyment of sensations and a sense of vertigo and at most, the excitement derived from directing one's energies and winning a competition without any higher and transfiguring reference, any sense of "sacrifice" or deindividualizing offering being present. Physical individuality is cherished and strengthened by sport; thus the chain is confirmed and every residue of subtler sensibility is suffocated. The human being, instead of growing into an organic being, tends to be reduced to a bundle of reflexes, and almost to a mechanism. It is also very significant that the lower strata of society are the ones that show more enthusiasm for sports, displaying their enthusiasm in great collective forms. Sport may be identified as one of the forewarning signs of that type of society represented by Chigalev in Dostoyevsky's The Obsessed, after the required time has elapsed for a methodical and reasoned education aimed at extirpating the evil represented by the "I" and by free will, and no longer realizing they are slaves, all the Chigalevs will return to experience the innocence and the happiness of a new Eden. This "Eden" differs from the biblical one only because work will be the dominating universal law. Work as sport and sport as work in a world that has lost the sense of historical cycles, as well as the sense of true personality, would probably be the best way to implement such a messianic ideal. Thus, it is not a coincidence that in several societies, whether spontaneously or thanks to the state, great sports organizations have arisen as the appendices of various classes of workers, and vice versa. [...] ---JULIUS EVOLA


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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    […] Regarding the degenerated forms of asceticism, I would like to point out the spirit of a phenomenon that is more properly connected to the plane of "work" (that is, of the fourth caste). The modem world knows a sublimated version of work in which the latter becomes "disinterested," disjoined from the economic factor and from the idea of a practical or productive goal and takes an almost ascetic form; I am talking about sport. Sport is a way of working in which the productive objective no longer matters; thus, sport is willed for its own sake as mere activity. Someone has rightly pointed out that sport is the "blue collar" religion. " Sport is a typical counterfeit of action in the traditional sense of the word. A pointless activity, it is nevertheless still characterized by the same triviality of work and belongs to the same physical and lightless group of activities that are pursued at the various crossroads in which plebeian contamination occurs. Although through the practice of sport it is possible to achieve a temporary evocation of deep forces, what this amounts to is the enjoyment of sensations and a sense of vertigo and at most, the excitement derived from directing one's energies and winning a competition without any higher and transfiguring reference, any sense of "sacrifice" or deindividualizing offering being present. Physical individuality is cherished and strengthened by sport; thus the chain is confirmed and every residue of subtler sensibility is suffocated. The human being, instead of growing into an organic being, tends to be reduced to a bundle of reflexes, and almost to a mechanism. It is also very significant that the lower strata of society are the ones that show more enthusiasm for sports, displaying their enthusiasm in great collective forms. Sport may be identified as one of the forewarning signs of that type of society represented by Chigalev in Dostoyevsky's The Obsessed, after the required time has elapsed for a methodical and reasoned education aimed at extirpating the evil represented by the "I" and by free will, and no longer realizing they are slaves, all the Chigalevs will return to experience the innocence and the happiness of a new Eden. This "Eden" differs from the biblical one only because work will be the dominating universal law. Work as sport and sport as work in a world that has lost the sense of historical cycles, as well as the sense of true personality, would probably be the best way to implement such a messianic ideal. Thus, it is not a coincidence that in several societies, whether spontaneously or thanks to the state, great sports organizations have arisen as the appendices of various classes of workers, and vice versa. [...] ---JULIUS EVOLA

    Yeah, Norm Chomsky writes about the same thing regarding sports. Daco knows all that. I was cursed with being a great athlete so it was hard to avoid sports as high school student. Everyone has their escapism, so there nothing wrong with watching a little sports provided it is not an all consuming activity. Also, I'm sorry the jocks were mean to you in high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Yeah, Norm Chomsky writes about the same thing regarding sports. Daco knows all that. I was cursed with being a great athlete so it was hard to avoid sports as high school student. Everyone has their escapism, so there nothing wrong with watching a little sports provided it is not an all consuming activity. Also, I'm sorry the jocks were mean to you in high school.
    You just don't get it. I was athletic too , during certain points in my life, but I focused it on killing and hurting people that is not a counterfeit of action. I did not play sports because sports is a counterfeit of action not befitting an aristocratic warrior king :



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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    You just don't get it. I was athletic too , during certain points in my life, but I focused it on killing and hurting people that is not a counterfeit of action. I did not play sports because sports is a counterfeit of action not befitting an aristocratic warrior king :


    The Royal Scythians played a game similar to football. Btw, American football was first played by elite young men at Ivy League schools back in the 1880s and 1890s. It helped toughen up preppy kids and it's roots are anything but blue collar. The game wasn't even accessible to the lower classes until the early 1920s.

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