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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Foley View Post
    Meaning the Squatters cant substantiate any of their bullshit claims, its just their realization of the Anglo-Saxon blandness which they are attempting to distance themselves from and claim some form of racial kinship with the Irish and Scottish.
    Find ANY post of mine that says it came from England? Oh and if you read on you will find that the bow was taken up at the SAME time in most of the British isles.

    Also if you bothered to read my posts you would find that I had already posted about the find from the 11C.
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    Discussion of the rules taken to here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electronic God-Man View Post
    I bet even Obama has Ulster-Scots ancestry.
    nope nope nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creeping Death View Post
    The Dáil Éireann is elected by a proportional representation system the British in an archaic first past the post system. Ireland has a President not an arcahaic Queen.

    How was Ireland different from another European nation at that time then? Besides what is wrong with Clan warfare its a part of Gaelic Irish and Scottish heritage as is whiskey.

    There were no English around
    In other words: the Irish inherited a functioning system (which is what the British system, for all its ills, is: a functioning system of law, order, a state church (in Ireland's case: Catholicism) and a reasonably ordered democracy) and pissed it up against the wall. Much like the "low taxes so easy money" boom of the 1980s-2000s. PR is a dreadful system that gives far too much power to the cities (a.k.a the Left) which explains why Ireland is going through its transition to multiculti hellhole even faster than a country like such as Sweden where the transition took 40 years - it takes the Irish under 10.

    The fact is that England and France were the first organised states in mediaeval Europe and perpetual civil war has never led to anything productive.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    In other words: the Irish inherited a functioning system (which is what the British system, for all its ills, is: a functioning system of law, order, a state church (in Ireland's case: Catholicism) and a reasonably ordered democracy) and pissed it up against the wall. Much like the "low taxes so easy money" boom of the 1980s-2000s. PR is a dreadful system that gives far too much power to the cities (a.k.a the Left) which explains why Ireland is going through its transition to multiculti hellhole even faster than a country like such as Sweden where the transition took 40 years - it takes the Irish under 10.

    The fact is that England and France were the first organised states in mediaeval Europe and perpetual civil war has never led to anything productive.
    Ireland had their own ancient system called the Brehon Laws. They would have developed themselves without English interference. If anyone reads Irish history Britain was a hindrance to Ireland and did not help with any development. They put all industry in the north of the country. Even when Ireland left the UK Ireland was forced to pay a portion of British Imperial debt. Ireland didn't benefit from British colonialism and any neutral reading Irish history would have to agree.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Irish_law

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    In other words: the Irish inherited a functioning system (which is what the British system, for all its ills, is: a functioning system of law, order, a state church (in Ireland's case: Catholicism) and a reasonably ordered democracy) and pissed it up against the wall. Much like the "low taxes so easy money" boom of the 1980s-2000s. PR is a dreadful system that gives far too much power to the cities (a.k.a the Left) which explains why Ireland is going through its transition to multiculti hellhole even faster than a country like such as Sweden where the transition took 40 years - it takes the Irish under 10.

    The fact is that England and France were the first organised states in mediaeval Europe and perpetual civil war has never led to anything productive.
    Feels good to correct a 10 year old post from a banned member

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Feels good to correct a 10 year old post from a banned member
    I only now noticed his stupid post.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Ireland had their own ancient system called the Brehon Laws. They would have developed themselves without English interference. If anyone reads Irish history Britain was a hindrance to Ireland and did not help with any development. They put all industry in the north of the country. Even when Ireland left the UK Ireland was forced to pay a portion of British Imperial debt. Ireland didn't benefit from British colonialism and any neutral reading Irish history would have to agree.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Irish_law
    They may have but they didn't. Even today, Ireland inherits British law and British governmental structures.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    They may have but they didn't. Even today, Ireland inherits British law and British governmental structures.
    Well of course they didn't because they haven't had control of their country. If Ireland didn't have British interference they would have developed their own law and structures obviously. The Brehon laws were quite advanced for their time and Ireland was going along nicely pre-Viking years but it was not to be. They were invaded and treated as a colony by Britain and ended up losing a significant amount of their population. I think even British acknowledge the damage they did to Ireland. The Irish population was completely shanked by the British and this is being kind. Flight of the Earls, Penal Laws, removing food during the Famine etc. Not sure what favours they did the Irish?

    How would Ireland have their own laws after been governed by Britain for centuries?

    I don't hate Britain at all and history is history and one can't live in the past but I don't know how anyone can look at this and can say Ireland benefited from being part of the British Empire? You would really have to be one-eyed to say otherwise.

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    I have some ulster-scots heritage

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