DNA results + pics: Brazilian Family

[Adamastor]

My personal (strict) judgement:

He is 81.55% Caucasoid, she - 81.28%, the girl - 79.49%. Allow me to exclude the "non-black African".
Not sure how to treat the South Asian. Possibly it's Caucasoid too, so you can add 1% or so to the total.

They are borderline white, yes.

So for you Pedro Ruben is 8% Black? A Portuguese is almost an Octoroon?

This is him in GEdrosia K3:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 89.97
2 SSA 7.55
3 E_Eurasian 2.48

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...results/page18

It's certainly bullshit, we cannot rely completely on that.

[Alenka]

The man looks European while the woman and her sister look kinda ambiguous.
As for the little girl, it's too soon to really tell.

[Leto]

So for you Pedro Ruben is 8% Black? A Portuguese is almost an Octoroon?

This is him in GEdrosia K3:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 89.97
2 SSA 7.55
3 E_Eurasian 2.48

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...results/page18

It's certainly bullshit, we cannot rely completely on that.

Pedro is not 8% African on Dodecad World9. Please don't start this flame about black blood, I don't want it. Having a little bit of black in Brazil should not be controversial. Why bring up other people from other places.

[Adamastor]

Pedro is not 8% African on Dodecad World9. Please don't start this flame about black blood, I don't want it. Having a little bit of black in Brazil should not be controversial. Why bring up other people from other places.

Well, it's not a flame war, I'm being respectful. They scored African in commercial tests but in significant less amount, I'm not saying they don't have SSA. But their European ancestry is only Portuguese and most Portuguese (and Spaniards) have increased SSA in GEDmatch.

One doesn't need to be a genious to make the math. FilhoV, who has less African than Pedro, is 3.9% African or something like that in GEDmatch... Since these guys are mostly Portuguese would be irrational to think they would not have increased SSA as well in GEDmatch.

[Leto]

Pedro Ruben is less than 4% African on World9.

Population Percent

1 Atlantic_Baltic 59.52
2 Southern 26.85
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.75
4 African 3.69
5 Amerindian 0.66
6 Siberian 0.31
7 South_Asian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 2.83
2 Portuguese (Dodecad) 3.37
3 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 3.71
4 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 3.9
5 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 3.97
6 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 4.52
7 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 4.88
8 Spaniards (Behar) 5.03
9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000 Genomes) 5.18
10 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 6.03
11 Spanish (Dodecad) 6.11
12 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 6.26
13 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 7.07
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 7.12
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 7.55
16 Brazilian (Dodecad) 7.98
17 Cantabria (1000 Genomes) 8.12
18 Aragon (1000 Genomes) 8.16
19 French (Dodecad) 12.27
20 French (HGDP) 12.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
79.3% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 20.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.13
72.6% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 27.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.13
96.4% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3.6% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 1.18
93.3% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 6.7% Dominican @ 1.23
96.7% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3.3% ACB30 @ 1.24
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% Biaka_Pygmies @ 1.24
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% Mbuti_Pygmies @ 1.24
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 1.25
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 1.25
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% YRI30 (HGDP)@ 1.26
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% San @ 1.26
97.1% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 2.9% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 1.26
96.7% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3.3%San_He @ 1.3
97% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3% Mandenka @ 1.3
97% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3% LWK30 (Behar) @ 1.34
96.9% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3.1% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 1.35
95.5% Extremadura (1000 Genomes) + 4.5%Dominican @ 1.41
96.8% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 3.2% Hadza_He @ 1.47
82.1% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 17.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.47
97.8% Extremadura (1000 Genomes) + 2.2% San_He @ 1.47

[Leto]

Well, it's not a flame war, I'm being respectful. They scored African in commercial tests but in significant less amount, I'm not saying they don't have SSA. But their European ancestry is only Portuguese and most Portuguese (and Spaniards) have increased SSA in GEDmatch.

One doesn't need to be a genious to make the math. FilhoV, who has less African than Pedro, is 3.9% African or something like that in GEDmatch... Since these guys are mostly Portuguese would be irrational to think they would not have increased SSA as well in GEDmatch.

In the case of those Portuguese most of it if not all is ancient, of course I'm not debating that.

I actually said nothing about Africa, I merely stated their Caucasoid percentages.

[Adamastor]

In the case of those Portuguese most of it if not all is ancient, of course I'm not debating that.

Yeah, that's my point. In these Brazilians most of the African isn't ancient, but it would be retarded to think that having 4%+ of African in GEDmatch compared to commercial tests isn't related to their Portuguese ancestry.

If you do the math, things are very clear: this guy scored 9% African in 23andme, since he is 13% on Dodecad, it means the additional 3-4% he got came from his Portuguese ancestors. It's not an isolated case, it's something that happens in basically all Colonial Brazilians.

[TheMaestro]

Would guess both White.

[Zuh]

I fail to understand how is possible for none white looking Brazilians to be the euro the woman looks like many balanced Mexican mestizas that are 50+ amerindian yet shes 80+ Euro...

[Adamastor]

6% Amerindian is visible? Are you sure?

The South Asian percentage is likely noise, lol. It's not a secret that GEDmatch gives many non-noise percentages of everything to many people. I don't think we should rely on GEDmatch to calculate percentages and such stuff.