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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    The apex of North Italian immigration happened in late 19th century when Brazil was needing workers for coffee fields and people to settle empty lands while North Italy was poorer than South Italy, South Italians came in a later wave and immigrated to a country that was becoming increasingly urban and industralized.
    Did South Italians migrated mostly to Sao Paulo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaItalica View Post
    When an European settles in America they become Americanized, this is normal, when someone migrate to another country culture becomes mongrelized.
    There are still some Italian communities in Brazil (called colonias) that live in their own cultural bubbles speaking barely any Portuguese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    There are still some Italian communities in Brazil (called colonias) that live in their own cultural bubbles speaking barely no Portuguese.
    Tsk "Cultural bubbles"... lol.

    I've already seen plenty of Italian Americans and they are pretty different from the European ones. It's not only about language, they have a different mentality. Americanized.

    This obviously is the opinion of an Italian European (but pretty much of many other Italians who see Italian-American culture different)

    You are from America and you see Italian Americans with different eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaItalica View Post
    Tsk "Cultural bubbles"... lol.

    I've already seen plenty of Italian Americans and they are pretty different from the European ones.

    This obviously is the opinion of an Italian European (but pretty much of many other Italians who see Italian-American culture different)

    You are from America and you see Italian Americans with different eyes.
    Of course they are different. They preserved the traditions, Europeans forsake them for the sake of modernity. Italians reached a point where they can't even recognize Italian culture anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Of course they are different. They preserved the traditions, Europeans forsake them for the sake of modernity. Italians reached a point where they can't even recognize Italian culture anymore.
    We don't recognize them because America is a mongrels land, thousands times more different than Italy. Europeans who settle in America become part of a melting pot of cultures, it's impossible to preserve the original culture. You can preserve it for some years but then it will eventually change. It's normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaItalica View Post
    When an European settles in America they become Americanized, this is normal, when someone migrate to another country culture becomes mongrelized.
    I'm not claiming they are Italians but North Italians from Brazil. These guys cultural and ethnic ancestors preserved things that disappeared in North Italy. I know what I'm talking about because I visited Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    Did South Italians migrated mostly to Sao Paulo?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    I'm not claiming they are Italians but North Italians from Brazil. These guys cultural and ethnic ancestors preserved things that disappeared in North Italy. I know what I'm talking about because I visited Italy.
    They are Americanized Italians.
    Besides, "North Italians" isn't an ethnic group, only Italian is. Seems still hard for some people to get the difference between geographic location and ethnic group...

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    In Brasil there is a place where they speak in Veneto.

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    I sometimes get Aosta Valley Italy as a top population on calculators. Anybody have music from this region?

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