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    I'd like people's opinions on what haplogroups they consider as white. For myself. R1b, R1a, G2a l497, J2b, J2a, Ev13, I1, I2 , N all white.
    Non white= Q, J1, all other subclades of E ex (e v22) G1 and all other subclades of G2 not belonging to the l497 branch , T , M, S, C, D, H (gypsy) L. Within the white haplogroups I would have a strict pecking order. 1.R1a 2.R1b. 3. I1. 4.I2 5. G2a l497 6.J2b 7.J2a 8.N 9.Ev13. Thoughts?

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    R1a

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    There are many other European clades of G2a other than L497. L497 is just the Alpine clade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    There are many other European clades of G2a other than L497. L497 is just the Alpine clade
    Yes your correct, I forgot U1. Thanks for picking that up.

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    N1 - white of snow

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    Neither, autosomal genetic does matter

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    If haplogroups is an indicator of whiteness then Afro-American with R1b or I1 haplogroup is whiter than native Caucasian with J1 one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sun King View Post
    I'd like people's opinions on what haplogroups they consider as white. For myself. R1b, R1a, G2a l497, J2b, J2a, Ev13, I1, I2 , N all white.
    Non white= Q, J1, all other subclades of E ex (e v22) G1 and all other subclades of G2 not belonging to the l497 branch , T , M, S, C, D, H (gypsy) L. Within the white haplogroups I would have a strict pecking order. 1.R1a 2.R1b. 3. I1. 4.I2 5. G2a l497 6.J2b 7.J2a 8.N 9.Ev13. Thoughts?
    It depends on what you define as "white".

    I belong to J2a, which originated in the Middle East. I would think to place it wherever J1 is placed - since both are from there, and I consider their histories intertwined. But, I don't exactly agree with assigning race to a haplogroup. I also think Hajimurad brings up a valid point. With regard to J2, I know many South and Central Asians belong to the haplogroup - which make it more difficult to make classifications such as this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    N1 - white of snow
    Lol. Slightly asiantic

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    It depends on what you define as "white".

    I belong to J2a, which originated in the Middle East. I would think to place it wherever J1 is placed - since both are from there, and I consider their histories intertwined. But, I don't exactly agree with assigning race to a haplogroup. I also think Hajimurad brings up a valid point. With regard to J2, I know many South and Central Asians belong to the haplogroup - which make it more difficult to make classifications such as this.
    I understand they are intertwined but J1 has a too high a semetic component to be considered white. This is up for debate though as some subclades I suppose can be considered European.

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