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    Default Guess two red-haired girls

    One of them is a Tatar girl from Udmurtia and the other is a Udmurt girl from Tatarstan. Guess who's who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laag View Post
    One of them is a Tatar girl from Udmurtia and the other is a Udmurt girl from Tatarstan. Guess who's who.

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    2 girl



    First girl is Udmurt, second one is Tatar. I know where is located Glazov town

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    Agreed. Head and face very different. I prefer Udmurt natural attitude. Tatar seems like a wannabe princess.

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    why "Glazov", why?!



    if I have to choose, I prefer Udmurtian first girl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    why "Glazov", why?!

    if I have to choose, I prefer Udmurtian first girl
    Translate from Russian wiki.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Глазов

    There are several versions of the origin of the city's name[5]. The geographical version arose due to the fact that the geographical features of the city's terrain resemble the shape of an eye when viewed from a bird's eye view or from Soldyrskaya mountain. According to toponymic legend, the name of the city was given by Catherine II. The drawing plan of the future district city, presented to the Empress, caused her Association with the all-Seeing eye( eye), so the city was called "Glazov". Meanwhile, the future city was called the village of Glazov long before the Catherine administrative reform of 1780.

    According to the version put forward by local historian M. I. Bunya, the city's name is a Russian translation of the Udmurt toponym Singurt-literally "eye-village". The word sin "eye" Udmurts called the place where the source of the earth beats [6].

    The most plausible version ascribes the name of the city to the name (or surname) of its founder. According to A. G. Tatarintseva, the toponym "Singur" was coined by the historians as not been documented anywhere. The name" Glazov " was never translated by Udmurts. Russian Russian census book for 1678 mentions it for the first time, and scribes usually never translated the Udmurt names of villages, writing down either their Udmurt name, or a well-known Russian name, or called the village by the name of the founder. So, by the name of the founder, Glazov was also recorded. It is not known who exactly was the founder of the Pochinka and what name formed the basis of its name-Russian, Udmurt or Tatar[7].

    In addition to the official name, the city also has an unofficial name "the Northern capital of Udmurtia". Glazov received this name in memory of the fact that in 1921 it was the first capital of the votsk Autonomous region.

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    Bump and I will reveal.

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    I also knew where Glazov is, so it's a trick and the first one is Udmurt and the second one is Tatar.

    In Soviet Russia, the Udmurt girl is from Tatarstan and the Tatar girl is from Udmurtia, but the girl from Tatarstan takes photos in Udmurtia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    I also knew where Glazov is, so it's a trick and the first one is Udmurt and the second one is Tatar.

    In Soviet Russia, the Udmurt girl is from Tatarstan and the Tatar girl is from Udmurtia, but the girl from Tatarstan takes photos in Udmurtia.
    But also northern Udmurtia where Glazov situated is the home of Cheptsa Tatars population, that mixed with Udmurts for few centuries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    First girl is Udmurt, second one is Tatar. I know where is located Glazov town
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Agreed. Head and face very different. I prefer Udmurt natural attitude. Tatar seems like a wannabe princess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    why "Glazov", why?!

    if I have to choose, I prefer Udmurtian first girl
    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    I also knew where Glazov is, so it's a trick and the first one is Udmurt and the second one is Tatar.

    In Soviet Russia, the Udmurt girl is from Tatarstan and the Tatar girl is from Udmurtia, but the girl from Tatarstan takes photos in Udmurtia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Ears View Post
    But also northern Udmurtia where Glazov situated is the home of Cheptsa Tatars population, that mixed with Udmurts for few centuries
    Yes, the first one is Udmurt girl
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    and second one is Tatar girl from Udmurtia. She won the beauty contest "Red-haired beauty" in Izhevsk in 2013.
    https://www.omsk.kp.ru/daily/26133.5/3024450/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Ears View Post
    But also northern Udmurtia where Glazov situated is the home of Cheptsa Tatars population, that mixed with Udmurts for few centuries
    There were two social layers in the Kazan khanate so-called "служилые люди" (service class people) and "ясачные люди", "yasak people" (peasants). Service class people was made up of Tatars and "yasak people" (peasants) were all the other peoples who inhabited the Kazan khanate: Chuvash, Mari and Udmurts.
    In the so-called "Писцовые книги" (it's like a census) in the early 17th century was recorded only "служилые татары" (serving Tatars) and yasak Chuvash, yasak Udmurts and yasak Mari but no yasak Tatars were recorded. But already in the 18th century those villages that were previously marked as yasak Chuvash, Mari or Udmurts are already called as yasak Tatars. It is obvious that there was no mixing but there was a transition of the Chuvash, Mari and Udmurts to the Tatar language and their acceptance of Islam. There is a lot of information in Russian on this subject.

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