Why do some non IE peoples such as some turkics carry R1a

[Dick]

[Pine]

R1b and R1a is no indo european. only R1a-M417 and R1b-M269 is indo european

Even calling R-M269 Indo-European is a stretch and almost surely wrong, as it was formed prior to the Indo-European people and has plenty of Middle Eastern subclades. Let's also not forget that R-Z93 is a subclade of R-M417 and is certainly West Asian.

[Illyrius]

Even calling R-M269 Indo-European is a stretch and almost surely wrong, as it was formed prior to the Indo-European people and has plenty of Middle Eastern subclades. Let's also not forget that R-Z93 is a subclade of R-M417 and is certainly West Asian.

What subclades of R1b are Indo European

[Ford]

What subclades of R1b are Indo European

Yours is, my good Skipetar.

[Illyrius]

Yours is, my good Skipetar.

Yeah yeah mine is obviously IE Gallo-Roman but what about the L23 and BY116 typical Albanian subclades?

[Kmakkmak]

Even calling R-M269 Indo-European is a stretch and almost surely wrong, as it was formed prior to the Indo-European people and has plenty of Middle Eastern subclades. Let's also not forget that R-Z93 is a subclade of R-M417 and is certainly West Asian.

R1b-M269 and R1a-M417 is İndo-European origin.

[Pine]

R1b-M269 and R1a-M417 is İndo-European origin.

How old are Indo-Europeans?

[Illyrius]

How old are Indo-Europeans?

About as old as God and the universe.

[Proto-Shaman]

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