TheMaestro - "This is a really nice thread."

[PaleoEuropean]

He wants to say that many Western Europeans have naturally black hair and generally darker complexion, somewhat similar to Southern Europeans.

A lot do, I don't see what that has to do with anything I said. Paleo-Atlantid is the basically the British version Borreby/Tydal/Strandid. Paleo-Atlantids aren't Meds in the modern sense.

[pulstar]

A lot do, I don't see what that has to do with anything I said. Paleo-Atlantid is the basically the British version Borreby/Tydal/Strandid. Paleo-Atlantids aren't Meds in the modern sense.

I don't deal with this human types guessology thing, nor do I really know it.
Caucasian with black hair and pale skin looks like Southern European, blond (or generally light hair) and pale Caucasian looks like Northern European; all others don't look like Europeans. Where is the border between South and North Europe is also not my domain of interest, as I don't see how belonging to certain human type really has to do with anything in someones life.

[lei.talk]

If you don't know who I am talking about

then you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

I was referencing Richard McCulloch.

your abstruse characterisation did leave me baffled.

long ago,
a friend of mine introduced me to richard mcculloch's mentor.

[lei.talk]

the credit justly belongs to my son - the boy of destiny
(you are correct; his sobriquet and image are click-able ):
he dredged the image
from the depths of one of his old computers.
here is an older one:

this image resonated from the girl-child
a clarification: there are no contradictions in reality,
only incomplete knowledge in human conceptualisations.

consequently, when she and my son began adding genetic details
to the back of their physical anthropology flash-cards
to more accurately distinguish

• Subspecies
  • Series
    • Varieties
      • Subvarieties
        • Stablised Hybrids

it became obvious
the two peripheral outliers (seen flickering above) -
while they shared much the same genetic material
(as do all humans [and all humans do with chimpanzees]) -

they, in fact, lacked the distinctive nordish genes

and were removed from the chart. science is self-correcting.

please, click-on the image below:

[lei.talk]

Neo-Danubian

Etymology:
The term Neo-Danubian is derived from Danubian ("of the River Danube"), a cultural designation associated with the proto-Nordics of the Neolithic, who brought Indo-European language (Slavic and Baltic) to the eastern steppes.

Other names:
- Oriental (Deniker)
- Osteuropid (von Eickstedt; includes the East Baltic type)
- Pre-Slavic (Czekanowski)
- Slavic (popular anthropology)
- Subnordic (Deniker; includes the East Baltic type)

Origin:
Danubian proto-Nordic altered by the semi-mongolid Ladogan racial type of the northeastern forests. This type was brought westward from the Volga country with the migrations of the Baltic Finns during the centuries immediately preceding and after the time of Christ. Today it presents a variable but easily recognizable phenotype of eastern Europe.

Description:
Neo-Danubians are very round-skulled, and their cephalic indices frequently exceed 85. The head form is globular, and the forehead is steep and not seldom protuberant. The face is square to oval in shape, and the combination of a round face and a plump cheek is common. There is often a slight flatness to the Neo-Danubian face.

The nose is moderately leptorrhine, straight to concave in profile, and often snub-tipped in a Ladogan fashion. The nasal skeleton is rather low, with a broad tip.

The upper lip is long and convex, and the cheek furrows are as a rule strong.

Median eyefolds are indicative of a low orbit a heavy deposit of fat in the upper lid. Another fatty deposit - on the malars - seems to be a secondary sex character, as it is most common among women. The malars are only moderately projecting, especially when compared to those of East Baltics and Ladogans.

Neo-Danubian pigmentation is more blond than brunet, and the pigment character is prevailingly light-mixed. The combination of ash-blond hair with gray-mixed eyes seems to be a specialization shared with East Baltics and partially blond Ladogans, but the most common combination is golden blond hair and blue eyes.

Pigmentation is darker than with the North-Atlantid group, and dark brown and black hair is unsurpassed in the majority. The eye pigment is often heavier than what is typically Nordish, and brown and dark-mixed eyes are the rule. The skin is not seldom darker than the northern European mean, and tending more towards a southern European Mediterranean color.

Geographical distribution:
The Neo-Danubian is primarily an eastern European racial type, and may be found in its greatest present numbers in Poland and in the territories to the immediate east and north-east of that area. It predominates in most of Russia, Belarus, and the Ukraine.

Percentage estimates of Neo-Danubian in European populations (McCulloch):

Poland: 55%
Russia, Belarus, & Ukraine: 40% (m.c. in Belarus & western Ukraine)
Hungary: 35% (m.c. in the north-east)
Finland & the Baltic states: 30% (m.c. in s-e Lithuania & n-e Finland)
Czech Republic & Slovakia: 20% (m.c. in Slovakia)
Romania: 20% (m.c. in the north-east)
Balkans: 5% (m.c. in the north)

Related types:
- East Baltic
- A blond dinaricized variety, common in Yugoslavia.

[Tauromachos]

Hahaha the cretin thumbed your thread down

[lei.talk]

Teutorigos I have seen French people, English people, Dutch people, German people but never a white person.

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lei.talk the ability to directly perceive nationality!?

which visible wave-length transmits this information

black/brown/red/yellow/olive/white skin and all the shades in-be-tween;
how does one see nationality?

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JamesBond007 ...if someone is speaking Dutch, German or French that can also be a huge tip off
when looking I am also not deaf.

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lei.talk the third-generation moluccan immigrant speaking flaw-less nederlands looks dutch
the grown-child of the turkish guest-worker speaking perfect deutsch looks german
la dame de couleur enunciating elegant français looks french

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Rudolf Martin From the point of view of Physical Anthropology
there are no Germans, no Swedes, and no French, there are only morphological types.

science is determining in ever greater detail
which genes determine particular morphological attributes.

will science eventually unveil
the genes that produce nationality?