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Thread: Şah İsmayıl / Shah Ismail Appreciation Thread

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    Default Şah İsmayıl / Shah Ismail Appreciation Thread





    Ismail declares himself Shah by entering Təbriz



    Statue in Ardabil, Iranian Azerbaijan

    Statue in Baku, Republic of Azerbaijan





    Safavid Unity

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    His animosity with Ottoman Sultan Selim I



    Letter exchange before battle:

    http://www1.udel.edu/History-old/fig...elimismail.pdf

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    Facts:

    - his father a Qizilbash leader died in battle when he was just 4
    - quickly rose to power in NW Iran, declared himself Shah in Tebriz
    - in 1510 he moved against Sunni Uzbek tribes and defeated the 28.000 men army with only 17.000 men, leader of the Uzbeks, was killed trying to escape after the battle
    - established Shia Islam as State religion
    - in 1514 the Ottomans, with highly trained professional troops armed with muskets and artillery, invaded northwest Iran. Ismāʿīl rushed from his campaigns in Central Asia to oppose the threat to his capital at Tabrīz. In a hard-fought battle, Selim and a force of 120,000 troops defeated Ismāʿīl and his army of 70,000 Ismāʿīl was wounded and nearly captured as he tried to rally troops. The Ottomans then took Tabrīz without opposition. A mutiny among his troops, however, forced Selim to withdraw, giving Ismāʿīl time to recover his strength.
    - considered firearms unmanly which lead to the defeat
    - The basic conflict between the Shīʿite empire Ismāʿīl had founded and the Sunnī Ottomans in the west and the Sunni Uzbek tribes in the east continued for more than a century.
    - Ismāʿīl died at the age of 36

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    Shah Ismael was great and pioneer of the modern Iranian identity no doubt but Abbas was the greatest Saffavid Shah ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    Shah Ismael was great and pioneer of the modern Iranian identity no doubt but Abbas was the greatest Saffavid Shah ever.
    I've always found myself more drawn to Ismail. He seems so deep and dutiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    I've always found myself more drawn to Ismail. He seems so deep and dutiful.
    It's not odd considering that you're half Iranian Azeri and all like Ismail. It's odd on how Iranian Azeris identify more closer to Iranians while those in Azerbaijan feel more closer to Turkey and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    It's not odd considering that you're half Iranian Azeri and all like Ismail. It's odd on how Iranian Azeris identify more closer to Iranians while those in Azerbaijan feel more closer to Turkey and all.
    Yes but to be fair Ismail is also considered a great man/leader among a lot Republican Azerbaijanis and Shias/Alevis in Turkey.
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    I like some of his poems. Nadir shah is the greatest (turkic) emperor of iran tho.
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