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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I am not from Flanders so, obviously, you have trouble reading. The Dutch are formed out of Franks, Saxons and Frisians so I have all three flowing in my bloodlines and I am in my own country. I don't have to larp - I know what my country is like.
    Sorry, you're not the first or last Benelux cuckoo I've been putting up with about crackpot ambitions for a European diet in which necromancing the failed state of Frankia is top geopolitical priority. A free Friesland I can only dream of because you are drunk with the temptations of power in the deals cut by the Vatican, with Clovis and Pepin, etc. You are into this because the Franks have no pre-Merovingian existence and go for broke with the Carolingians. It's too bad that Saxony didn't abolish your institutions once the Ottonians took power, but they got drunk too, playing a leverage game to take the Reich into their hands and neuter the Franks. With this newfound affluence, they treated Scandinavia poorly, to ruin the old friendship of Widukind and Godfrid. This Nibelung sickness for the Ring is what ensures a dark cloud forever over our Germanic urheimat. It's all for you to muddy and muck as you damn well please. Enjoy the fruit of your labour as you reinvent the wheel of despair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Our interest is a strong Greece with Constantinople + ex byzantine areas to defend middle eastern christians and Europe from south east.
    Another Habsburg here who would certainly prefer Poland over Prussia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
    Just a couple of years ago, Putin lost the lands where Oleg had created the Kievan Rus. What could he do about?
    I think you're confused. There was never a state of Kievan Rus. The term was invented in 19th century by historians to designate pre-Mongol period of Russian history. Oleg didn't create anything.

    As for Putin he doesn't have to do anything. The way things developing most of Ukraine will be part of Russia within next 5-10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Do I believe that Prussia should be restored ? No. Prussia has been the bane of Germany's existence. Every time an Austrian (because the latter, although Catholic, suffered from similar mental issues) or a Prussian was at the helm was of the German state, Germany got dragged off to another war to be a slaughtered or saw themselves weakened in some other way (let's not forget that Merkel, while not a Prussian, is still an Ossi and East Germany retained many of Prussia's ideas and just dressed them in socialist rhetoric while the West, clearly somewhat wiser, at first tried to get rid of that train of thinking (only, unfortunately, to experiment with it again and you can see the results today in Merkel's Germany). Prussianism is tyranny and it would be good for the Germans if they removed that legacy from within their midst. It's pure poison.

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    There is an interesting phenomena in complex systems - evolution of a system largely defined by processes that started the said system. German Prussia had first appeared as result of land conquest from Balts and Slavs. It was natural for it to be plagued by never ending conflict with neighbors.

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    No one at this moment knows what the political map of the world will be like in 100 years, in 200 years, in 500 years ... It's just like people who lived 100 years ago or 200 years ago, they had no idea what the world map would be today. So nothing is excluded in this sublunar world, and never say never! Personally to me the most important thing is us Armenians to restore our ancestral Homeland in all its glory and greatness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
    Another Habsburg here who would certainly prefer Poland over Prussia.
    Muuuuh Hohenzollern and Habsburg are eternal enemies!!!




    True Germans are proud of both.

    You useless fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Muuuuh Hohenzollern and Habsburg are eternal enemies!!!




    True Germans are proud of both.

    You useless fuck.
    I'm descended from Rudolf, but am prouder of blood from Ludwig IV. I think the Wittelsbachs were better than the Habsburgs for Deutschland, but the Babenbergs were also better for Österreich, except for imprisoning Richard the Lionheart. I don't have any königlich Hohenzollern ancestors, because I don't have any more recent kaiserlich ancestry than Ludwig IV. I suppose I should be proud of one Austrian being König without also Kaiser, but other ancestors of mine were Austrian Protestant refugees from them, so I'll just have to be neutral about both sides. Yes, I know Rudolf didn't persecute the Hussites, but I don't think it's a good idea to be all brash about identifying with them.
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    In this thread it is impressive to see that, even before Slavs, the Austrians and similar low class people jump in to express their anti-Prussian envy and their medieval-sounding preference for Poles.

    Let's focus on the topic.

    18.01.1871.
    5 years after crushing Habsburgs, the Prussian armies decisively defeat France.
    Paris is besieged. France surrenders.

    Palace of Versailles (west of Paris), Hall of Mirrors.
    Wilhem I von Hohenzollern is proclaimed German Kayzer.


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    This Durk seems not to notice that his provocative abilities look pathetic to about everyone. Prolly he thinks of himself no less than a god of propaganda

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