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    Carlos Mac Allister

    Carlos Javier Mac Allister (born March 6, 1968) is an Argentine former footballer. His club career included spells at Argentinos Juniors, Boca Juniors and Racing Club, and he got three international caps for Argentina in 1993. Mac Allister played as a left-back.

    Now is playing his son, Alexis.
    He is a talented central and attacking midfielder, he plays in Boca Juniors and is currently part of argentine national team Under 23 and the Major National Team too.



    Alexis Mac Allister (born 24 December 1998) is an Argentine professional footballer who plays as a central midfielder for Boca Juniors, on loan from Premier League club Brighton & Hove Albion, and the Argentina national team.[1]

    Argentinos Juniors
    Born in La Pampa, Mac Allister, like his two brothers, started his career with Club Social y Deportivo Parque before joining Argentinos Juniors' youth setup.[3] He made his professional debut on 30 October 2016, coming on as a second-half substitute for Iván Colman in a 0–0 Primera B Nacional home draw against Central Córdoba.[4]

    Mac Allister scored his first professional goal on 10 March 2017, netting in a 2–1 away loss against Instituto. He contributed with three goals in 23 appearances during his first senior campaign, as his side achieved promotion to Primera División as champions. He made his debut in the latter category on 9 September, starting in a 2–1 loss at Patronato.[5]

    On 25 November 2017, Mac Allister and his two brothers played all together for the first time, in a 1–0 loss at San Lorenzo; Alexis and Francis were starters, while Kevin came in as a substitute.[6] He scored his first goal in the top tier on 5 March 2018, netting the opener in a 2–0 home defeat of Boca Juniors.[7]

    Brighton & Hove Albion
    On 24 January 2019, Mac Allister signed for Premier League club Brighton & Hove Albion on a four-and-a-half-year contract.

    Argentinos Juniors (loan)
    As part of the deal, Mac Allister was loaned back to Argentinos Juniors for the remainder of the 2018–19 Premier League season.[8]

    Argentinos Juniors (loan)
    As part of the deal, Mac Allister was loaned back to Argentinos Juniors for the remainder of the 2018–19 Premier League season.[8]

    Boca Juniors (loan)
    In June 2019, Boca Juniors completed the loan signing of Mac Allister; linking him up with brother Kevin, who had joined the club on loan six months prior.[9][10] Mac Allister netted on his Boca debut, scoring the club's only goal in the first leg of a Copa Libertadores round of sixteen victory over Athletico Paranaense on 25 July.[1] On 5 August, Mac Allister played his first league game for Boca as he came on as a substitute in a 2–0 away victory against Patronato.[1]

    International career
    Soon after debuting for Argentinos, Mac Allister received a call-up from Claudio Úbeda for the Argentina under-20s.[11] He was selected by the senior team for the first time in August 2019, ahead of friendlies in the United States in September versus Chile and Mexico.[12] His international bow arrived in the match with Chile at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on 5 September.[1]

    Personal life
    Mac Allister's older brothers Francis and Kevin are also professional footballers.[13] They are the sons of Carlos Mac Allister and nephews of Patricio Mac Allister, both retired footballers.[13] Mac Allister is of Scottish and Irish descent. Some ancestors hailed from Fife.[14]

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    Cecilia Grierson was born in 1859 in Buenos Aires and is the first woman in Argentina to earn a medical degree. She went on to found the first nursing school in the country, the Argentine Medical Association, the National Obstetrics Association, and the Argentine First Aid Society.. Her mother was an Irish-Argentine Jane Duffy and her paternal side was Scottish. She never married.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Alexis Mac Allister who now plays for the argentine olympic national football team


    Oh... what stupid I am... I didn't see your comment and posted Alexis again.... I apologize...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Cecilia Grierson was born in 1859 in Buenos Aires and is the first woman in Argentina to earn a medical degree. She went on to found the first nursing school in the country, the Argentine Medical Association, the National Obstetrics Association, and the Argentine First Aid Society.. Her mother was an Irish-Argentine Jane Duffy and her paternal side was Scottish. She never married.





    Another extremely important woman who contributed in huge manner to our science.
    The scottish ancestry is not that big as irish in Argentina but It's not that small either and It's not rare to find people like Cecilia or like the Mc Allisters with both ancestries together.

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    Norma Nolan.
    The only argentine Miss Universe (won 1962).



    Norma Nolan (born Norma Beatriz Nolan, April 22, 1938)[1] is an Argentine beauty queen who became first women from Argentina to obtain the Miss Universe title after she had won Miss Argentina. She won the title in Miami Beach, Florida. Nolan is of Irish and Italian descent. She was crowned Miss Argentina in 1962 from her predecessor, Adriana Gardiazábal who was second runner up in previous pageant.

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    Title: Miss Universe

    Not much is known about her after winning the Miss Universe title, Nolan kept a largely private life after her victory. According to some websites written by Argentines who lived during the 1960s, however, she became a symbol to the Argentine youth, as Argentina was going through a difficult period, having cut ties with Ecuador recently, among other things.

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    Eduardo Casey was born in Buenos Aires in 1847 to Irish parents Lawrence Casey from Westmeath and Mary O'Neill from Wicklow. He founded the city of Venado Tuerto and helped in the founding of another and funding of Pigüé, Saavedra.

    He was married to María Inés Gahan, daughter of John Gahan and Mary Devitt, belonging to a family of Irish Catholics. The Caseys had 9 children; 5 boys and 4 girls.

    Chris de Burgh another Irish Argentine was born in Venado Tuerto.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Eduardo Casey was born in Buenos Aires in 1847 to Irish parents Lawrence Casey from Westmeath and Mary O'Neill from Wicklow. He founded the city of Venado Tuerto and helped in the founding of another and funding of Pigüé, Saavedra.

    He was married to María Inés Gahan, daughter of John Gahan and Mary Devitt, belonging to a family of Irish Catholics. The Caseys had 9 children; 5 boys and 4 girls.

    Chris de Burgh another Irish Argentine was born in Venado Tuerto.

    You found the reason why Venado Tuerto has an important irish descendant community!!
    So, It's because it was founded by an irish descendant!!
    That city is in the same province (state/region) where I grew yo, even though in miles/kilómeters is not that close to my originally little town.
    But It's interesting the fact that it has many irish descendants (and croats too) in a region where most immigrants came from Basque Area (north Spain & South France), Piedmont (Northwest Italy) and Switzerland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    You found the reason why Venado Tuerto have an important irish descendant community!!
    So, It's because it was founded by an irish descendant!!
    That city is in the same province (state/region) where I was born, even though in miles/kilómeters is not that close to my originally little town.
    But It's interesting the fact that it has many irish descendants (and croats too) in a region where most immigrants came from Basque Area (north Spain & South France), Piedmont (Northwest Italy) and Switzerland.
    It would make sense that these migrant populations would go to where there are people like themselves. The Irish community always helped their own people in places like US, Australia etc so I'm sure the same thing would have happened in Argentina.

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    I didn't know Che was half Irish. Interesting.

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    Camila O'Gorman


    Maria Camila O'Gorman Ximénez (1827/1828 – 18 August 1848) was a 19th century Argentine socialite executed over a scandal involving her relationship with a Roman Catholic priest. She was 20 years old and eight months pregnant when she and Father Ladislao Gutiérrez faced a firing squad.

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    Camila was born in Buenos Aires, the youngest daughter of Adolfo O'Gorman y Perichón Vandeuil, and his wife, Joaquina Ximénez Pinto. She was the second-to-last of six children in an upper-class family of mixed Irish, French and Spanish descent. Typical of powerful families in Argentina's post-colonial era, two of her brothers went on to pursue reputable careers. One as an ordained priest of the Jesuit Order, and the other as a police officer and the eventual founder of the Buenos Aires Police Academy.[2]
    She was also the granddaughter of Ana Périchon de O'Gorman (1776-1847), renowned lover of the Viceroy of the La Plata Santiago de Liniers, First Count of Buenos Aires. As the first British invasion occurred, Liniers was part of the defence of Buenos Aires. For heroic actions in defence of the city, Santiago de Liniers was appointed Military Governor of Buenos Aires, and Perichon de O'Gorman became the unofficial first lady. Her importance and power led to accusations intended to discredit her, including allegations that she was a spy for the French or the English. After Liniers died in 1810 she retired to a quieter life with her sons and died peacefully in 1847, at the age of 72.[citation needed]
    In 1847 Argentina was governed by Juan Manuel de Rosas, a General of the Argentine Army and a politician. Rosas governed the Argentine Confederation by decree from 1829-52. Camila was considered a pillar of polite society, a close friend and confidante of Rosas' daughter, Manuelita, and a frequent guest at the Governors Residence. In her late teens, Camila was introduced to Father Ladislao Gutiérrez, a Jesuit priest who had attended seminary with her brother.
    At the time, the Society of Jesus was the only institution within Argentina's Catholic Church which continued to speak out against Rosas' police state tactics. This led Rosas to later banish the Jesuits from Argentina. Father Gutiérrez came from a similar background; his uncle was the Provincial Governor of Tucumán, Celedonio Gutiérrez. Father Gutiérrez had been assigned as the parish priest of Nuestra Señora del Socorro (Our Lady of Relief) and was frequently invited to the O'Gorman family's estate. They soon began a clandestine affair.
    They escaped in December 1847 and settled in Goya, Corrientes Province, where they set up the town's first school and posed as a married couple under false names. Corrientes was at the time under the control of Benjamín Virasoro, a warlord hostile to Rosas. As the scandal broke, Adolfo O'Gorman sent a letter to Rosas accusing Gutierrez of having seduced Camila, "under the guise of religion". Adolfo described himself and his family as heartbroken and pleaded that his daughter be rescued from the man he accused of having kidnapped her.[3]
    Rosas' exiled political opponents, and future President Domingo Faustino Sarmiento declared that Rosas was responsible for the moral corruption of Argentine womanhood. Camila and Ladislao were recognised by an Irish priest, Fr. Michael Gannon. Among others, Father Anthony Fahy and lawyer Dalmacio Vélez Sarsfield "demanded an exemplary punishment of the wayward daughter that was also giving the industrious and well-regarded [Irish] community a bad name".[4]
    The couple was abducted from Corrientes Province and returned to Buenos Aires. Camila claimed she had initiated her relationship with Gutierrez and insisted on their elopement, angrily denying rumors that she had been raped. From Buenos Aires, Rosas had given strict orders - the fugitives were to be sent to the prison of Santos Lugares (today San Andrés, General San Martín, Buenos Aires Province) in separate carriages - as indicated by Foreign Relations Minister Felipe Arana in his warrant of arrest.[4]
    Before reaching their final destination, Camila wrote to Manuelita Rosas, with the hope that she might persuade her father into granting clemency. Manuelita replied to her friend's letter, promising to help. Manuelita optimistically furnished a cell in a nearby Convent with a piano and books. However, Rosas denied his daughter's pleas and replied that this case, "needs a show of my undisputed power, as the moral values and sacred religious norms of a whole society are at stake". At the time, Rosas had removed the administration of justice from the courts and taken it upon himself. As per protocol, he signed a decree ordering the executions.[citation needed]
    Immediately after arriving to the prison, according to Canon Law, Father Castellanos, the prison chaplain, visited Camila’s cell and baptised her unborn baby. This consisted of Camila drinking holy water and placing consecrated ashes on her forehead. The next morning, 18 August 1848, O'Gorman and Gutiérrez were taken to the courtyard, tied to chairs, and blindfolded. Rosas accepted full responsibility for the execution, and said nobody had made any plea on behalf of the couple, overlooking the pleas of his own daughter, Manuelita. Many documents have survived, including a letter from Adolfo O'Gorman to Rosas, demanding "exemplary punishment for the most atrocious and unheard of event in this country".[5]
    A book published in 1883, many years after the event, by Antonino Reyes, who had served Rosas for 14 years and was his aide-de-camp, secretary, Sergeant Major, and Chief of Police at Santos Lugares Prison. Reyes was so moved that he decided not to witness the executions and out of compassion ordered both bodies to be placed in the same coffin. Only then did he write to Rosas and inform him that his orders had been carried out. In the aftermath of their deaths, both friends and enemies of Rosas claimed to be appalled by the cruel and senseless execution, including Sarmiento and his fellow Unitarios, and wrote about it using terms such as "the beautiful girl", "the doomed couple" and "the repression of love". Camila was 20 years old and eight months pregnant with an illegitimate child. Father Gutiérrez was 24 years old.


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