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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    I've seen beautiful Nordic people and beautiful redheads but not in Spain.
    How are you that sure? Spanish actress:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Redheads are a minority everywhere. Even if you post team pictures of Irish and Scots you would be lucky to see one of two redheads and many times none. Spain has one of the lowest amounts of redheads in Europe. Some people might think that is a blessing.
    No compared to the rest of southern Europe. The Iberian peninsula is closer to the main focus of redheads (British Isles) than the rest of southern Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    What's the average Spanish look though? Not extremes but what most Spaniards look like? This is why people need to post crowds or teams with a few people so that it is more representative of what a population does actually look like.

    People should also give google links then there is not likely to be misrepresentation.
    Manuela Velasco or Iker Casillas are good examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    What's the average Spanish look though? Not extremes but what most Spaniards look like? This is why people need to post crowds or teams with a few people so that it is more representative of what a population does actually look like.

    People should also give google links then there is not likely to be misrepresentation.
    People like: Marta Torné, Yon González, Blanca Suárez, Andrés Sanchez (Brazilian of fully Spanish ancestry, from Andalusia), Ismael Martínez, Fernando Tielve, Eduardo Velasco, Manuela Velasco, Fernando Alonso, Soraya Sáenz de Santamaría, Irene Montalà...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    No compared to the rest of southern Europe. The Iberian peninsula is closer to the main focus of redheads (British Isles) than the rest of southern Europe.
    Yes but they appear to have less red hair genes than other populations. Just look at Udmurts for example re geography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Yes but they appear to have less red hair genes than other populations. Just look at Udmurts for example.
    In Spain, red hair was associated with Jews and heavily discriminated against. There was a negative selective process against it, so it doesn't surprise me, but it's still there. It will show up in men's beards or as auburn instead of proper red.
    What did you think of my examples? The second vid is another festival, more local and less touristy. It has many crowds. I think it shows the native phenotypes quite well.Mostly med, but not a strong looking as other places with beige to pale skin, dark hair, and brown eyes. There were a few blue eyed examples, and a few blondes, with the blondes leaning more to golden brown or dirty blonde rather than proper blonde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    No compared to the rest of southern Europe. The Iberian peninsula is closer to the main focus of redheads (British Isles) than the rest of southern Europe.
    No.

    There are lot of redheads in Northern Italy, especially in Lombardy, Piedmonte, Aosta, Trentino Alto-Adige. I've said that on another thread but I have a redhead cousin who's 25% piedmontese and his piedmontese side as lot of ginger genes.

    I think that real frequence of redheads in Spain would be restricted to some peculiar areas.

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    The town with most redheads in Spain is not located in the north, but in the south, it's called "Anõra", located in Cordoba:
    https://verne.elpais.com/verne/2015/...69_200472.html
    http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/t...rojos/3259365/

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    This is done on genetics. This has not been updated for quite a few years but it does show some trends.



    I wish they would update it. It would be great if they did a GWAS to look at red hair. All my family for example have the R160W mutation and this map doesn't correspond to other results saying R160W is prominent in the Irish.

    Redheads, i.e. individuals with red hair color, come about primarily from being homozygotes (or compound heterozygotes) at the following three MC1R gene SNPs:

    rs1805009, known as Asp294His or D294H; a variant associated with red hair and poor tanning ability in one study [PMID 7581459]
    rs1805007, known as Arg151Cys or R151C; associated with red hair, and in redheaded females, linked to being more responsive to the anesthetics pentazocine, nalbuphine, and butorphanol, often used by dentists [PMID 9571181, PMID 12663858]
    rs1805008, known as Arg160Trp or R160W; associated with red hair in an Irish population [PMID 9665397]


    https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/MC1R

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    No.

    There are lot of redheads in Northern Italy, especially in Lombardy, Piedmonte, Aosta, Trentino Alto-Adige. I've said that on another thread but I have a redhead cousin who's 25% piedmontese and his piedmontese side as lot of ginger genes.

    I think that real frequence of redheads in Spain would be restricted to some peculiar areas.
    More likely only Northern Italy has higer frequencies of redheads than Iberians, but not the rest of southern Europe.

    And by the way, a Spaniard girl that I dated back in Spain, and who had a reddish hair, she was from Murcia.
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