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Thread: Illyrians and Vlachs wannabe as narative of young Montenegrin nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    They haven't attacked SPC properties without reason, those Churches are of no value or use for Government except if they plan to give them to MOC... i.e. to strengthen MOC.

    Also New Montenegrin nationalism (never seen before) is created with that goal in mind.
    Serbian Orthodox Church is the oldest institution in Montenegro - 800 years old (much older than Montenegrin state).
    Also SPC is the biggest keeper of Serbian identity in Montenegro. Until SPC exist in Montenegro Serbs can't be competely defeated, and Montenegrin nation can't be fully established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Serbian Orthodox Church is the oldest institution in Montenegro - 800 years old (much older than Montenegrin state).
    Also SPC is the biggest keeper of Serbian identity in Montenegro. Until SPC exist in Montenegro Serbs can't be competely defeated, and Montenegrin nation can't be fully established.
    Serbian Orthodox Church has continuity in present day Montenegro since 1219 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metr...d_the_Littoral

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    Serbs are pro-Russian as whole. But roots of Serbian rusophilia is in Montenegrin super Serbs. In 18th, 19th and early 20th century Montenegrins/Serbs from Montenegro were most pro-Russian people on the world, and other Serbs later adopted rusophilia from them.
    In 1905 Montenegro declared war to Japan as Russian ally, some Montenegrin volunteers fought against Japan on Russian side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Why are Slavs so pathetic that they want to be something else at all cost?
    Slavic language speaking "Vlachs".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Slavic language speaking "Vlachs".
    Montenegrins and Bosniaks wannabe Illyro-Vlachs, and North Macedonians wannabe ancient Macedonians. Many Bulgarian claim Thracian origin, some of them even Turkic origin. Croatians have various theories of non-Slavic origin. Western Ukrainians wannabe Celts. Czechs and Slovenians tend to identify themselves culturally with Germans, but they don't claim they are Germanic.
    Slavs/Slavic speakers often have a problem with identity, especially Balkan ones.
    Last edited by Pribislav; 01-26-2020 at 11:49 AM.

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    Montenegrins want to be Vlachs.

    Serbs want to be Russians.

    Romanians want to be Romans.

    The Balkans are living a perpetual identity crisis, rofl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    Montenegrins want to be Vlachs.

    Serbs want to be Russians.

    Romanians want to be Romans.

    The Balkans are living a perpetual identity crisis, rofl.
    We are mostly rusophiles, but don't wanna be Russians.

    Does theory that Romanians are direct descendants of Roman colonists in Dacia still has significant support among Romanians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    We are mostly rusophiles, but don't wanna be Russians.

    Does theory that Romanians are direct descendants of Roman colonists in Dacia still has significant support among Romanians?
    Romanian anthem text

    Wake up, Romanian, from your sleep of death
    Into which you have been sunk by the barbaric tyrants
    Now, or never, make a new fate for yourself,
    To which even your cruel enemies will bow.

    Now or never let us give proof to the world
    That in these veins a Roman blood still flows,
    That in our chests we hold a name with pride,
    Victorious in battles, the name of Trajan!


    Romanian historians talking about Romans and Vlachs:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Romanian anthem text

    Wake up, Romanian, from your sleep of death
    Into which you have been sunk by the barbaric tyrants
    Now, or never, make a new fate for yourself,
    To which even your cruel enemies will bow.

    Now or never let us give proof to the world
    That in these veins a Roman blood still flows,
    That in our chests we hold a name with pride,
    Victorious in battles, the name of Trajan!


    Romanian historians talking about Romans and Vlachs:

    I suppose Romanians see Vlachs as we see our great-grandparents. Like we are related with our great-grandparents, but we are not same people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    We are mostly rusophiles, but don't wanna be Russians.

    Does theory that Romanians are direct descendants of Roman colonists in Dacia still has significant support among Romanians?
    Dacian purists have come out a lot more recently, rejecting the impact of the Roman colonists. It should be noted that some of these also propose that Latin is derived from Dacian, while a very small number think Zalmoxes, the main priest-God of the Dacians, was Jesus. So don't think that these purists are a fully legitimate, respected community.

    The idea that we are descendants of Roman colonists remains as the mainstream theory though. I personally accept that without Roman contact the proto-Romanians or Vlachs would not have spoken a romance language, but I do not believe that we are descendants of Romans; Romans in the literal sense, as an Italic people from the peninsula, not Romanized locals that had nothing in common with actual Italians.
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