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Thread: Illyrians and Vlachs wannabe as narative of young Montenegrin nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    Dacian purists have come out a lot more recently, rejecting the impact of the Roman colonists. It should be noted that some of these also propose that Latin is derived from Dacian, while a very small number think Zalmoxes, the main priest-God of the Dacians, was Jesus. So don't think that these purists are a fully legitimate, respected community.

    The idea that we are descendants of Roman colonists remains as the mainstream theory though. I personally accept that without Roman contact the proto-Romanians or Vlachs would not have spoken a romance language, but I do not believe that we are descendants of Romans; Romans in the literal sense, as an Italic people from the peninsula, not Romanized locals that had nothing in common with actual Italians.
    If Roman colonists have significant genetic influence on Vlachs or proto-Romanians than modern Romanians should have many matches in Italy in y dna, and that is not case from what I know.
    There was more Roman colonists on the East Adriatic coast than in Dacia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I suppose Romanians see Vlachs as we see our great-grandparents. Like we are related with our great-grandparents, but we are not same people.
    Of course that Roman Civilization ceased to exist, but if you stop remembering who your ancestors were you will be "without history" like Serbs who still don't know 1st - 6th century A.D. history probably because most of Serbs were Vlachs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Of course that Roman Civilization ceased to exist, but if you stop remembering who your ancestors were you will be "without history" like Serbs who still don't know 1st - 6th century A.D. history probably because most of Serbs were Vlachs.
    If Aromanians are approxy for Vlachs than Serbs don't have much Vlach blood. Aromanians are quite different from Serbs in y dna and autosomally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    If Roman colonists have significant genetic influence on Vlachs or proto-Romanians than modern Romanians should have many matches in Italy in y dna, and that is not case from what I know.
    There was more Roman colonists on the East Adriatic coast than in Dacia.
    Romans are not just Italians but Greeks as well and Anatolians.

    When they found Pompeii city (sunken by Vulcanic dust) they have found Gigantic fresco of Alexander the Great on floor.

    You don't have to match with Italy to be Roman, you can match with Greeks, Pontic people etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    If Aromanians are approxy for Vlachs than Serbs don't have much Vlach blood. Aromanians are quite different from Serbs in y dna and autosomally.
    Romanians are proxy for Vlachs, those Morlachs, Aromanians etc.. are just non-assimilated Romance speakers. (Morlachs being mostly slavic speakers, or ex romance speakers)

    Serbs score quite well with Romanians and Bulgarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Romanians are proxy for Vlachs, those Morlachs, Aromanians etc.. are just non-assimilated Romance speakers. (Morlachs being mostly slavic speakers, or ex romance speakers)

    Serbs score quite well with Romanians and Bulgarians.
    Romanians are half Slavic or something genetically. They are bad choise for proto-Vlachs. Aromanians are quite less Slavic than Romanians. Even Aromanians have Slavic genetic input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Now or never let us give proof to the world
    That in these veins a Roman blood still flows,
    That in our chests we hold a name with pride,
    Victorious in battles, the name of Trajan!
    There's nothing wrong with that. For example, the Hungarian anthem depicts us as sons of Attila's father.

    "You brought our ancestors up

    Over the Carpathians' holy peaks

    By You was won a beautiful homeland

    For Bendeguz's sons

    And wherever flow the rivers of

    The Tisza and the Danube

    Árpád our hero's descendants

    Will root and bloom"

    Bendegúz=Mundzuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Romanians are half Slavic or something genetically. They are bad choise for proto-Vlachs. Aromanians are quite less Slavic than Romanians. Even Aromanians have Slavic genetic input.
    There is no such thing as Proto-Vlachs. That would mean people who never mixed with other nations (maybe mountain people like Albanians etc..)

    Romans on Balkans lived with Huns during the times of Orestes, and people mixed extensively. Are they less Vlachs? No.

    Romans mixed with Syrians, Turks, Egyptians... are they less Roman? No.

    It has been decided in 8th century A.D. that Slavic language we speak today become A NEW Lingua Franca of all Western Balkan people, and everyone adopted it accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kökény View Post
    There's nothing wrong with that. For example, the Hungarian anthem depicts us as sons of Attila's father.

    "You brought our ancestors up

    Over the Carpathians' holy peaks

    By You was won a beautiful homeland

    For Bendeguz's sons

    And wherever flow the rivers of

    The Tisza and the Danube

    Árpád our hero's descendants

    Will root and bloom"

    Bendegúz=Mundzuk
    Some hungarians are descended from Attila Army.

    Arpad's descended from Ugyek, and Ugyek descended from Attila.

    Arpad family has been tested R1a (meaning Euroasian Steppe)

    but many Hungarians aren't related to Attila

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    Romanians want to be Romans.

    The Balkans are living a perpetual identity crisis, rofl.
    Romanians are descendants of Roman citizens, whether from the Italic peninsula or not, and we have kept the Roman ethnic identity for over a millennia. LARPing as a Scythian from the steppes is something more akin to an identity crisis.

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