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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    It's not that Serbs are wannabe Vlachs, they are wannabe Eastern European Slavs.



    Serb favorite anthem:



    Serb after favorite anthem ended:

    Do you see yourself as Slav?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    First guy see only R1a as Slavic marker, it's very common among Montenegrins and Bosniaks.

    Actually, present day Montenegro was very rare populated before Ottomans. When Ottomans came Serbs from various regions (Herzegovina, Bosnia, Rs
    aška, Kosovo, Macedonia, Skadar Krajina etc) escaped to Montenegrin mountains where they was more freedom.
    Very few tribes of Montenegro have roots in Montenegro before 15th century. Most of them settled in present day Montenegro during the 15th century.
    but then these Montenegrins resettled all those areas again, right.

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    Due to fall of Latin Balkan world:

    450.000 Vlachs were assimilated in Ukraine, From Constantinople and Region hundreds of thousands Vlachs were displaced to Russia and Greece.

    also Gelonians (Blisk Ukraine) also had dozens of thousands of assimilated Hellenes (Greek God's Worshipers)

    Those Vlachs in Ukraine are predominantly I2a1 (tested), also every 5th Russian is I2a1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Do you see yourself as Slav?
    All our political leaders along with Albanians, (plus now Montenegrins) declare Slavic input as "those who came to live among us".

    Of course I don't. It's just our people do not care about those things, poverty and wars give you no time to think about it.




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    Why would they even wanna be vlachs lol ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    but then these Montenegrins resettled all those areas again, right.
    It's exaggeration. For example Serbs from Krajina, Bosnia and western Serbia who the most claim Montenegrin origin are more different from Montenegrins in y dna and autosomally than native Kosovo and SE Serbs (Torlakians) who don't carry legend about Montenegrin origin.
    Montenegrins cluster with Torlakian and Kosovo Serbs, not with Serbs from western Serbia, Krajina and Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    All our political leaders along with Albanians, (plus now Montenegrins) declare Slavic input as "those who came to live among us".

    Of course I don't. It's just our people do not care about those things, poverty and wars give you no time to think about it.



    Whats ur take on Albanians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    Why would they even wanna be vlachs lol ??
    Because for them Slavic = Serbian for some reason (same is with Bosniaks), and they don't want to be Serbs.
    Vlachs for them are native, and it's exotic and promotive in their eyes to search their ancestors in Vlachs.
    Serbs from Montenegro who are same as Montenegrins (only politically divided) are not slavophobic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Whats ur take on Albanians?
    They are mix of Greek, Italians and minor Slavs ... nice people as long as you don't insult them. Extremely warlike and brutal people in every sense.

    They dislike Serbs for they are epitome of Slavism for them. One of Albanians told me "I don't trust you cause you have friends among Serbs" hahahah

    Because of their tribalism they can handle 3 religions within the nation (cause they honor tribes a lot).

    They are prime example of Paleo-Balkan people and mentality that applies to all of us, but mostly to them.

    My best friend was Albanian Bosnian in 8yr and middle school, they love their families (like Italians but more).

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    Montenegrins, Bosniaks and North Macedonians are masters of talking of ancient past for themselves, and champions in negation of Slavic roots.

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