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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    That is too far to show in your Gedmatch results. Since you do have elevated West Med I think Zadar locals are somewhat collectively mixed with Italians. Idk, hard to tell anything.
    I guess you're right, pretty much anything is a far stretch, I guess I am just a Dalmatian with high west mediterranean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    That is too far to show in your Gedmatch results. Since you do have elevated West Med I think Zadar locals are somewhat collectively mixed with Italians. Idk, hard to tell anything.
    Exactly. This man, also from Zadar, has quite peculiar results, opposite of kne01 basically. Never seen anything like it:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dmatch-results

    You'd think he was half North Italian, but all the surnames he listed seem to be local and unique to that county.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Exactly. This man, also from Zadar, has quite peculiar results, opposite of kne01 basically. Never seen anything like it:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dmatch-results

    You'd think he was half North Italian, but all the surnames he listed seem to be local and unique to that county.
    Odd, despite having higher baltic than him, I still have higher west med and he has higher east med
    Also, if that guy is partially North Italian, he should have more west med than me, right?

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    Here is my K15, i put it on the K15 map and i am on the Serbian dot, even though my Baltic is way over Serbian average and even Croatian average.
    I also put it in vahaduo for updated populations and this is what i got, I am such an odd mix, even with the the closest population combination is 6.3 distance.
    https://imgur.com/a/GJEwl5K

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    Quote Originally Posted by knez01 View Post
    Here is my K15, i put it on the K15 map and i am on the Serbian dot, even though my Baltic is way over Serbian average and even Croatian average.
    I also put it in vahaduo for updated populations and this is what i got, I am such an odd mix, even with the the closest population combination is 6.3 distance.
    https://imgur.com/a/GJEwl5K
    your low west euro admixtures are pulling you south on the k15 map. you would need both high east and west euro components to pull you north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    your low west euro admixtures are pulling you south on the k15 map. you would need both high east and west euro components to pull you north.
    Yes I know, but other that, I've noticed that I plot quite normally for Zadar on that k15 map, despite my baltic being way off along with west components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knez01 View Post
    I guess you're right, pretty much anything is a far stretch, I guess I am just a Dalmatian with high west mediterranean
    your non-Slavic part is very neolithic, pre-indo-european, similar to Sardinians. i don't think there are any Abruzzans like this, and it's common in the Balkans, so i would guess this high west med is because of paleo-Balkan influence, maybe you would be even more neolithic if you didn't have Abruzzan ancestry.

    but i didn't look much at Italian results. you should research what kind of results can Abruzzans get, maybe there are some like this, it's a big region.

    Quote Originally Posted by knez01 View Post
    Yes I know, but other that, I've noticed that I plot quite normally for Zadar on that k15 map, despite my baltic being way off along with west components.
    PCAs aren't very precise, it's just a rough positioning. it's better for comparing groups than individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Is there any known Serb with 21 percent West or East Med?
    >20% West med is common in Montenegro as CommonSense said, and i've seen 2 Kosovo Serbs with >20% east med. I think this is a trace of the Illyrian vs. Thracian genetic difference.

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    Enough with spending Serbian results on thread for Balkanites (South Slavs & neighbours), it's time to continue here.

    Krajina Serb, surname Martić

    #Population percent
    1 Baltic 30.49
    2 North_Atlantic 26.62
    3 West_Med 16.89
    4 East_Med 12.48
    5 West_Asian 11.07
    6 South_Asian 1.71
    7 Red_Sea 0.58
    8 Amerindian 0.17

    #Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 4.78
    2 Serbian 4.79
    3 Croatian 6.76
    4 Hungarian 7.54
    5 Romanian 7.68
    6 Bulgarian 9.94
    7 Austrian 10.71
    8 East_German 11.75
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.26
    10 South_Polish 13.77
    11 Ukrainian 14.49
    12 West_German 16.92
    13 Polish 17.4
    14 Southwest_Russian 18.12
    15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.16
    16 South_Dutch 18.37
    17 Greek_Thessaly 18.52
    18 French 19.13
    19 Russian_Smolensk 19.66
    20 North_Italian 20.22

    Mixed Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source)
    1 53.7% Croatian + 46.3% Romanian @ 2.65
    2 79.6% Croatian + 20.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.71
    3 83.7% Moldavian + 16.3% North_Italian @ 2.75
    4 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% South_Italian @ 2.94
    5 65.5% Romanian + 34.5% South_Polish @ 2.94
    6 51.2% Moldavian + 48.8% Serbian @ 2.96
    7 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% Central_Greek @ 2.98
    8 61% Croatian + 39% Bulgarian @ 3
    9 70.8% Romanian + 29.2% Polish @ 3.02
    10 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Tuscan @ 3.02
    11 66.8% Romanian + 33.2% Ukrainian @ 3.04
    12 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.06
    13 64.7% Romanian + 35.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.08
    14 87.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.1
    15 65.9% Moldavian + 34.1% Romanian @ 3.1
    16 75.3% Croatian + 24.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
    17 81.1% Croatian + 18.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.13
    18 86.5% Moldavian + 13.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.14
    19 78.7% Croatian + 21.3% Tuscan @ 3.19
    20 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1 % Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.2
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    Serbian woman from Bosanska Krajina , from Kozara area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kozara

    Admix Results (sorted):

    #Population percent
    1 Baltic 34.4
    2 North_Atlantic 25.22
    3 West_Med 14.2
    4 East_Med 14.07
    5 West_Asian 6.57
    6 Red_Sea 2.75
    7 Amerindian 1.53
    8 Siberian 0.65
    9 East_Asian 0.45
    10 Oceanian 0.18

    Single Population Sharing:

    #Population (source) Distance:
    1 Moldavian 4.82
    2 Croatian 5.08
    3 Serbian 7.42
    4 Hungarian 7.81
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.55
    6 Romanian 10.68
    7 South_Polish 11.39
    8 Ukrainian 11.6
    9 Bulgarian 12.41
    10 Austrian 12.43
    11 East_German 12.81
    12 Southwest_Russian 14.52
    13 Polish 14.54
    14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.06
    15 Russian_Smolensk 16.35
    16 Estonian_Polish 16.63
    17 Belorussian 17.2
    18 Kargopol_Russian 18.86
    19 West_German 19.55
    20 Southwest_Finnish 19.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.3% Polish + 32.7% Ashkenazi @ 1.99
    2 63.3% Estonian_Polish + 36.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.01
    3 76.3% Ukrainian + 23.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.04
    4 54.9% Belorussian + 45.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.05
    5 56.7% Lithuanian + 43.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.09
    6 55.7% Estonian_Polish @ 44.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.13
    7 72.2% Ukrainian + 27.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.18
    8 66.1% Estonian_Polish + 33.9% South_Italian @ 2.21
    9 72% Polish + 28% Italian_Jewish @ 2.21
    10 71.9% Polish + 28.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.27
    11 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.29
    12 65.4% Belorussian + 34.6% South_Italian @ 2.37
    13 77.9% Ukrainian + 22.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.37
    14 76.4% Uktainian + 23.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.38
    15 51.1% Greek_Thessaly + 48.9% Lithuanian @ 2.4
    16 62.5% Belorussian + 37.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.43
    17 63.8% Russian_Smolensk + 36.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.5
    18 50.6% Greek_Thessaly + 49.4% Estonian @ 2.5
    19 62.4% Estonian_Polish + 37.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.51
    20 92.7% Croatian + 7.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.52
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