Were Scythians actually Dacians?

[Bosniensis]

Yes. We are discussing the samples used in various calculators such as G25 and Mytrueancestry

Helena Dragas was a Serbian women an Empress of Roman Empire.

And when she died 1450 the most learned person of Empire came to hold a speech for her during funeral, and he (Georgius Gemistus Pletho) said: "Our dear Empress was a Thracian women"

It's crazy how little we know about difference between Thracian and Scythian.

It seems that those two intermingle A LOT.

Also I doubt that Georgius was a Mad or uneducated to spill those words.

[Rocinante]

MTA ancient populations:

Gaul + Roman Hispania (3.54)
Gaul + Roman (6.009)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.441)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.821)
Roman + Illyrian (8.116)
Roman (10.52)
Illyrian (10.59)
Gaul (11.15)
Roman Hispania (11.33)
Gallo-Roman (12.52)

MTA modern populations:

1. North_Italian (8.391)
2. Spanish_Galicia (10.10)
3. Portuguese (10.60)
4. Tuscan (11.30)
5. Spanish_Extremadura (12.16)
6. Spanish_Murcia (13.27)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (13.29)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.82)

Hope this helps for a comparison my niggas. I want to know more about illyrians.

[Ülev]

Scythians + Sarmatians + Dacians + Thracians = Vlachs -- simple as that

[Bosniensis]

Scythians + Sarmatians + Dacians + Thracians = Vlachs -- simple as that

Scythians on Balkans in 30 B.C. who were allied with non-romanized Illyrians and Thracians against Romans

Zyraxes was a Getae king who ruled the northern part of what is today Dobrogea in the 1st century BC. He was mentioned in relation with the campaigns of Marcus Licinius Crassus (grandson of the triumvir). His capital, Genucla, was besieged by the Romans in 28 BC, but he managed to escape and flee to his Scythian allies.

", Antonius Hybrida, the governor of Moesia, was defeated beneath the walls of Histria in 61 BC. The Getae (Thracians) under Zyraxes and the bastarnae of Scythia were allied with the Histrians (Illyrian tribe), but it seems that the main victors of this conflict were the Getae, as they were the keepers of the battle trophies and brought them back to Genucla, Zyraxes' capital."

[Kyp]

COPE

[Thracian]

Well that BGR a very very old sample. I don't think the Slavs that came to Balkans were 100% Baltic unless they were inbreds.

I agree with you. Slavs most likely were not 100% Baltic.

The Scythian_Hun could be Dacian and the Moldovan a Getae then

Most likely.

[Kaspias]

This was what i claimed while the other members trying to make farmer remnants Thracian last year

[TheOldNorth]

MTA ancient populations:

Gaul + Roman Hispania (3.54)
Gaul + Roman (6.009)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.441)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.821)
Roman + Illyrian (8.116)
Roman (10.52)
Illyrian (10.59)
Gaul (11.15)
Roman Hispania (11.33)
Gallo-Roman (12.52)

MTA modern populations:

1. North_Italian (8.391)
2. Spanish_Galicia (10.10)
3. Portuguese (10.60)
4. Tuscan (11.30)
5. Spanish_Extremadura (12.16)
6. Spanish_Murcia (13.27)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (13.29)
8. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.82)

Hope this helps for a comparison my niggas. I want to know more about illyrians.

Probably proto-Albanians

[Daos777]

Target: Scythian_Hungary
Distance: 1.5425% / 0.01542468 | ADC: 0.5x
29.8 Slovenian
24.6 Austrian
23.0 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
15.4 Montenegrin
5.2 Spanish_Soria
1.8 Croatian
0.2 Spanish_La_Rioja



Target: Scythian_Moldova
Distance: 1.8105% / 0.01810484 | ADC: 0.5x
42.8 Turkish_Balkans
31.4 Italian_Piedmont
10.0 Greek_Thessaly
8.8 Swiss_Italian
5.4 Italian_Umbria
1.6 Greek_Peloponnese


Target: Scythian_Hungary
Distance: 1.9609% / 0.01960925 | ADC: 1x
57.2 Austrian
25.0 Montenegrin
17.8 French_Auvergne

Target: Scythian_Moldova
Distance: 1.9757% / 0.01975722 | ADC: 1x
34.8 Swiss_Italian
32.6 Greek_Thessaly
32.6 Turkish_Balkans

What about Scythian Ukraine from MTA? Is that sample more true Scythian?

[PaleoEuropean]

Helena Dragas was a Serbian women an Empress of Roman Empire.

And when she died 1450 the most learned person of Empire came to hold a speech for her during funeral, and he (Georgius Gemistus Pletho) said: "Our dear Empress was a Thracian women"

It's crazy how little we know about difference between Thracian and Scythian.

It seems that those two intermingle A LOT.

Also I doubt that Georgius was a Mad or uneducated to spill those words.

Thracian's weren't good horsemen though and weren't known to be great archers.