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    Default Rodrigo Borgia aka Alexander VI a proto-Protestant?

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    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    More like the main cause of the protestant schism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques de Imbelloni View Post
    More like the main cause of the protestant schism.
    How so?
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    How so?
    The extreme corruption of his papacy will bring consequences in following decades.

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    I can see that in some regards, but he wasn't as bad as he was portrayed imo. His successor spoke very highly of him. I would say a lot of his mistakes were inconsequential to Northern Europeans and Germany which were the main catalysts for the reformation. Corruption also certainly didn't start with him nor was he probably the most corrupt, he was just the most demonized.
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    In Spain he is seen as a proto-mafioso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    In Spain he is seen as a proto-mafioso.
    Again though I think a lot of his legacy is based on rumor, he didn't do anything others hadn't done, he was just better at it. Even if all the stuff he did was true, you gotta hand it to the guy for keeping power until his death.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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