Do you consider Turks to be Arab?

[Illyrius]

That has nothing to do with anatolians.Most of Antic turks had caucasoid y-dna and seljuk turcomens Who came to Anatolia were about %70 caucasoid just saying

So haplogroup j2a can be attributed to the Seljuks then

[porpozontokonto]

Funny thow how there's not much mongoloid haplogroups in there
It just goes to show how one small portion of the population cucked the majority of the population being Anatolians, with the small percentage being the mongoloid haplogroup Q, N R1a-Z93 ruling class.

there are ton of turks that are N though

[Illyrius]

there are ton of turks that are N though

Hmm any chart/diagram source?

[porpozontokonto]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ks-(NEW)/page2
https://turkishdnaproject.com/y-dna_anadolu_turkleri/

[porpozontokonto]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ks-(NEW)/page2
https://turkishdnaproject.com/y-dna_anadolu_turkleri/

[itilvolga]

Religion does define culture. Turkish religion is Islam which came from what is now Saudi Arabia. Most Turkish I know are staunch muslims. I do not see how that is a a problem for anyone.

1) Turks have a different sense of Islam
2) There is no such thing as “Turkish religion”.
3) If so, a Christian German has the same culture with a Christian Indonesian. Sounds incredibly correct.

[Oghuz]

1)
3) If so, a Christian German has the same culture with a Christian Indonesian. Sounds incredibly correct.

Your logic is wrong

Christian Indonesian does not share the region and history with Christian German. Turkish share the region and history (and genetics) with guess whom ...

[brennus dux gallorum]

I have always seen them as people of mixed heritage: Altaic, Caucasian, Persian and middle eastern, which middle eastern includes both anatolian and Levantine

so the answer is no, only partially Arab

[Halgurd]

1) Turks have a different sense of Islam
2) There is no such thing as “Turkish religion”.
3) If so, a Christian German has the same culture with a Christian Indonesian. Sounds incredibly correct.

How do Turks have a different sense of Islam? Turks follow the Hanafi madhab which is also followed in Iraq and Syria.

[Kaspias]

Your logic is wrong

Christian Indonesian does not share the region and history with Christian German. Turkish share the region and history (and genetics) with guess whom ...

Meson, Arabs have never been part of Turkish history. Controlling of Arabia was not directly but by assigning governors. Even during the era Turks settled in Mesopotamia there were Iranic and native populations, borders of Arabs reached such degree after Turkic community disappeared in the region.

Turkic people have been in Iran, Caucasia, Anatolia and the Balkans but not in Arabian Peninsula.

None of Turks have Arabic genes. Even Iraqi Turkmens have native admixture but not Arabian.