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    Hi everyone! I hope you had a wonderful day today.

    I decided to check out my Deep Dive matches and see what categories I have matches in under DNA spotlight. I've posted my outlier samples and 5 of my deep dive matches, along with my maternal grandmother's results below. I'd love to see some of your deep dive results as well.

    My Results
    Deep Dive:
    1. Gaelic Settler Viking Iceland 935 AD
    - 27% closer than other matching users
    - 12 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 153.36 cM
    - Largest segment=209 SNPs / 21.38 cM
    2. Bronze Age Jutland Denmark 1400 BC
    - 76% closer than other matching users
    - 21 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 108.33 cM
    - Largest segment=239 SNPs / 12.27 cM
    3. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy 1215 AD
    - 57% closer than other matching users
    - 3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 27.52 cM
    - Largest segment=126 SNPs / 10.11 cM
    4. Celtic Briton Gladiator York 250 AD
    - 46% closer than other matching users
    - 1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.89 cM
    - Largest segment=135 SNPs / 7.89 cM
    5. Cheddar Man Somerset England 7150 BC
    - 7% closer than other matching users
    - 1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 6.71 cM
    - Largest segment=113 SNPs / 6.71 cM

    Outlier Samples:
    102. Medieval Piedmont (580 AD) ..... 12.96 -
    Top 91 % match vs all users

    139. Celtoiberian Outlier Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 14.33 -
    Top 97 % match vs all users

    145. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) ..... 14.65 -
    Top 80 % match vs all users

    146. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) ..... 14.65 -
    Top 77 % match vs all users

    147. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.7 -
    Top 90 % match vs all users


    Maternal Grandmother's Results
    Deep Dive:
    1. Scotland Late Bronze Age 900 BC
    - 95% closer than other matching users
    - 9 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 69.81 cM
    - Largest segment=245 SNPs / 28.76 cM
    2. Cheddar Man Somerset England 7150 BC
    - 57% closer than other matching users
    - 3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 33.68 cM
    - Largest segment=166 SNPs / 16.6 cM
    3. Anglo Saxon 780 AD
    - 48% closer than other matching users
    - 2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 20.81 cM
    - Largest segment=128 SNPs / 11.83 cM
    4. Franco Medieval Villa Magna Italy 1215 AD
    - 16% closer than other matching users
    -1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.33 cM
    - Largest segment=130 SNPs / 8.33 cM
    5. High Staus Male Haunstetten 1946 BC
    - 75% closer than other matching users
    - 4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 20.43 cM
    - Largest segment=206 SNPs / 6.72 cM

    Outlier Samples:
    108. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) ..... 14.95 -
    Top 87 % match vs all users

    175. Scythian Outlier Hungary (550 BC) ..... 17.48 -
    Top 89 % match vs all users

    182. Bell Beaker Haunstetten Germany (1873 BC) ..... 17.67 -
    Top 96 % match vs all users

    186. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1200 BC) ..... 17.77 -
    Top 86 % match vs all users

    187. Lugii Tribe Iron Age Maslomecz (300 AD) ..... 17.84 - ?
    Top 98 % match vs all users
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    I have not delved into MTA, but I am happy to bump the thread for you.

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    Are you paying for that scam? I mean, you can see the Oracles without paying, that's the only good thing that site has. Ancient matches are mostly fake, you cannot share IBD with ancient people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    I have not delved into MTA, but I am happy to bump the thread for you.
    Thanks!
    "Tainted souls who try to purify themselves with blood are like the man who steps in filth and thinks to bathe in sewage."
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    MTA seems to be the best test if you are searching your ancient roots. If you are for instance Greek, or whatever you are, and want to know that you are Greek and your parents didn't lie to you, your best choice is Gedmatch. Still the Gedmatch Oracles can totally fail.

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    Saidu Sharif Buddhist Monastery 350 BC I7718 mtDNA: K1b1a1
    You are #2 among 214 other users who also have a deep dive match with this sample.
    6 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 38.68 cM

    Saidu Sharif Buddhist Monastery 300 BC I7721 mtDNA: R0a2k1
    You are #7 among 314 other users who also have a deep dive match with this sample. This makes your relationship to this individual very unique.
    6 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 81.84 cM

    Aral Sea Karasuk 1480 BC Rise493 mtDNA: C4a1c Y-DNA: Q1a1b1
    9 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 155.29 cM

    Skeleton Lake Sindhi Worshiper (Roopkund) 830 AD I3344 mtDNA: U2c1
    You are #6 among a select few users who also have a deep dive match with this sample.
    1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.22 cM


    Outliers
    86. Ancient Japan Funadomari Jomon (610 BC) ..... 74.16 - Funadomari5 -
    Top 13 % match vs all users

    107. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) ..... 78.79 - I1665 -
    Top 4 % match vs all users

    170. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 82.37 - I3582 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    172. Mycenaean Peristeria Citadel (1350 BC) ..... 82.45 - I9033 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    177. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 82.69 - I3575 -
    Top 1 % match vs all users

    179. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 82.7 - I7424 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    181. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 82.71 - SZ40 - ?
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    185. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 82.81 - R436 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    189. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 82.92 - R107 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    190. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 82.93 - R64 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users
    192. Roman 83.01 - R1 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    193. Roman..... 83.05 - R128 -
    Top 3 % match vs all users

    197. Roman ..... 83.11 - R65 -
    Top 3 % match vs all users

    198. Iran ..... 83.11 - I7425 -
    Top 1 % match vs all users

    199. ..... 83.11 - In662 - ?
    Top 3 % match vs all users
    Yfull [B]ID: YF83218 Medals -> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-the-Deep-dive
    G25 Distance: 1.0778%
    86.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    5.2 ITA_Sardinia_C_o:I15940 1.4 ITA_Daunian
    3.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
    3.6 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK464

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    Saidu Sharif Buddhist Monastery 350 BC I7718 mtDNA: K1b1a1
    You are #2 among 214 other users who also have a deep dive match with this sample.
    6 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 38.68 cM

    Saidu Sharif Buddhist Monastery 300 BC I7721 mtDNA: R0a2k1
    You are #7 among 314 other users who also have a deep dive match with this sample. This makes your relationship to this individual very unique.
    6 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 81.84 cM

    Aral Sea Karasuk 1480 BC Rise493 mtDNA: C4a1c Y-DNA: Q1a1b1
    9 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 155.29 cM

    Skeleton Lake Sindhi Worshiper (Roopkund) 830 AD I3344 mtDNA: U2c1
    You are #6 among a select few users who also have a deep dive match with this sample.
    1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 2.22 cM


    Outliers
    86. Ancient Japan Funadomari Jomon (610 BC) ..... 74.16 - Funadomari5 -
    Top 13 % match vs all users

    107. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) ..... 78.79 - I1665 -
    Top 4 % match vs all users

    170. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 82.37 - I3582 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    172. Mycenaean Peristeria Citadel (1350 BC) ..... 82.45 - I9033 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    177. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 82.69 - I3575 -
    Top 1 % match vs all users

    179. Morisco Italo-Iberian Andalusia (1550 AD) ..... 82.7 - I7424 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    181. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 82.71 - SZ40 - ?
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    185. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 82.81 - R436 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    189. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 82.92 - R107 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    190. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 82.93 - R64 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users
    192. Roman 83.01 - R1 -
    Top 2 % match vs all users

    193. Roman..... 83.05 - R128 -
    Top 3 % match vs all users

    197. Roman ..... 83.11 - R65 -
    Top 3 % match vs all users

    198. Iran ..... 83.11 - I7425 -
    Top 1 % match vs all users

    199. ..... 83.11 - In662 - ?
    Top 3 % match vs all users
    Outliers are those who don't match well with any known population, so you could be a good match among other testers despite of the match level. Someone of us could be a bit closer Chimp than you. Chimp is an ultimate outlier. MTA has listed also outliers keeping in a mind that also outliers can be found in modern populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Outliers are those who don't match well with any known population, so you could be a good match among other testers despite of the match level. Someone of us could be a bit closer Chimp than you.
    No these are Ibero-Roman & Iranian matches that have vast number of people in Europe & Asia. Some Indians have these admixture from long time back but diluted due to newer waves of admixure
    Yfull [B]ID: YF83218 Medals -> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-the-Deep-dive
    G25 Distance: 1.0778%
    86.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    5.2 ITA_Sardinia_C_o:I15940 1.4 ITA_Daunian
    3.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    No these are Ibero-Roman & Iranian matches that have vast number of people in Europe & Asia. Some Indians have these admixture from long time back but diluted due to newer waves of admixure
    Of course the outlier relation can be real, but the sequence number tells how meaningdul the match is and gives more information. I only hoped to see your top matches. My outlier samples are (the top because I ought to pay more to see more)

    144. Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.64 - NS12a - ?
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    148. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 18.7 - I2860 -
    Top 40 % match vs all users

    158. Late Bronze Age Estonia (600 BC) ..... 18.99 - OLS10 -
    Top 97 % match vs all users

    159. Kievan Rus (1130 AD) ..... 19.04 - Sunghir6 -
    Top 92 % match vs all users

    168. Battle Axe Gyvakarai (2545 BC) ..... 19.25 - Gyvakarai1 -
    Top 98 % match vs all users

    They are far behind top 100 matches. I have tested in my own analyses OLS10 and it is an outlier and maybe distantly related to ancient Estonians. My ancient Estonians are closer and give much more information.

    2. Late Bronze Age Estonia (610 BC) ..... 8.771 - V10 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    3. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.967 - Sigtuna urm160 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    4. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.22 - G208 -
    Top 95 % match vs all users

    5. Neolithic Axe Estonia (2460 BC) ..... 9.277 - Kunila2 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    6. Sala Silver Mine Sweden (1610 AD) ..... 9.36 - Sk6866 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    7. Late Bronze Age Estonia (580 BC) ..... 9.839 - VII4 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    8. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 10.9 - kzb006
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    9. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 11.05 - Rise139 -
    Top 95 % match vs all users

    10. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 11.16 - G942
    Top 96 % match vs all users

    11. Iron Age Oeselian Saaremaa (420 BC) ..... 11.47 - X04 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Of course the outlier relation can be real, but the sequence number tells how meaningdul the match is and gives more information. My outlier samples are (the top because I ought to pay more to see more)

    144. Finnic Sarmatian Warrior (605 AD) ..... 18.64 - NS12a - ?
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    148. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 18.7 - I2860 -
    Top 40 % match vs all users

    158. Late Bronze Age Estonia (600 BC) ..... 18.99 - OLS10 -
    Top 97 % match vs all users

    159. Kievan Rus (1130 AD) ..... 19.04 - Sunghir6 -
    Top 92 % match vs all users

    168. Battle Axe Gyvakarai (2545 BC) ..... 19.25 - Gyvakarai1 -
    Top 98 % match vs all users

    They are far behind top 100 matches. I have tested in my own analyses OLS10 and it is an outlier and maybe distantly related to ancient Estonians. My ancient Estonians are closer and give much more information.

    2. Late Bronze Age Estonia (610 BC) ..... 8.771 - V10 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    3. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) ..... 8.967 - Sigtuna urm160 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    4. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 9.22 - G208 -
    Top 95 % match vs all users

    5. Neolithic Axe Estonia (2460 BC) ..... 9.277 - Kunila2 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    6. Sala Silver Mine Sweden (1610 AD) ..... 9.36 - Sk6866 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    7. Late Bronze Age Estonia (580 BC) ..... 9.839 - VII4 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users


    8. Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC (1725 BC) ..... 10.9 - kzb006
    Top 99 % match vs all users

    9. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) ..... 11.05 - Rise139 -
    Top 95 % match vs all users

    10. Swede Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 11.16 - G942
    Top 96 % match vs all users

    11. Iron Age Oeselian Saaremaa (420 BC) ..... 11.47 - X04 -
    Top 99 % match vs all users
    For some reason those Estonian matches show up in my GED but not on MYTA. I have like few percent Narva like genome but it hasn't shown in myta. However the GED shows many Latvian, Finn, Kola and Estonian matches.
    Yfull [B]ID: YF83218 Medals -> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-the-Deep-dive
    G25 Distance: 1.0778%
    86.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    5.2 ITA_Sardinia_C_o:I15940 1.4 ITA_Daunian
    3.6 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
    3.6 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK464

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