Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

**~~gixajo~~** · 06-01-2020, 09:06 PM

A ver, yo solo puedo mirar samples cercanos a mí , así que mejor decidme vosotros muestras buenas , y yo en vez de elegir samples, que no tengo buena mano, me dedico a hacer promedios.

Puedo hacer promedios de cosa de 8 samples cómodamente, o de más . Estoy limitado por el tamaño de una hoja de texto, pero puedo usar fuentes más pequeñas y meter más filas. Así que si queréis, pasarme los samples, o el nombre de samples interesantes y en que spreadsheet están y los hago.

Tardo practicamente lo mismo en hacer promedios de 2 que de 12, y si resuelvo una chorrada, tardaría 5 minutos...

**~~Rocinante~~** · 06-01-2020, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by gixajo

Sí, esa es la idea, aunque sería mejor varias muestras de cada zona. pero hay zonas como Andalucía que entran tanto en Western como en Eastern Iberia, y no me suena que los samples estén por provincias.Un solo sample Ibérico no va a contentar a nadie, y uno solo Western_iberia, o Eastern_Iberia, tampoco.

Mejor scaled que unescaled?

Mejor individuales o averages?

Yo creo que siempre scaled, honestamente no conozco alguien que me haya dicho que unscaled de verdad valga la pena. No se puede hacer un solo sample iberico, porque aun asi siendo homogeneos, hay ciertas diferencias bajo lupa que ya El Club, o sea, nosotros, los guays, sabemos reconocerlas.

**~~gixajo~~** · 06-01-2020, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Que os sale?

Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029,0.126344,0.146236,0.041106, 0.005491,0.044316,0,-0.00047,0.005077,0.01718,0.033167,-0.004709,0.014687,-0.017839,-0.009634,0.005157,-0.000928,-0.003781,-0.001774,-0.001634,-0.003877,0.004118,0.008037,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.00012
Berber,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.7523% / 0.02752307
94.4 Spanish_Pirineu
5.6 Berber

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.1347% / 0.02134723
96.4 Spanish_Pirineu
3.6 Berber

**Defcon2** · 06-01-2020, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by gixajo

Sí, esa es la idea, aunque sería mejor varias muestras de cada zona. pero hay zonas como Andalucía que entran tanto en Western como en Eastern Iberia, y no me suena que los samples estén por provincias.Un solo sample Ibérico no va a contentar a nadie, y uno solo Western_iberia, o Eastern_Iberia, tampoco.

Mejor scaled que unescaled?

Mejor individuales o averages?

Tengo de Cataluña, lo hiciste?

Target: Cataluña
Distance: 2.1808% / 0.02180835
52.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
33.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.4 WHG
2.2 MAR_Taforalt

Code:

Cataluña,0.12077928,0.14707664,0.04290777,0.00236625,0.04438687,0.0001284,-0.00038494,0.00249616,0.02112285,0.03031871,-0.00189737,0.00757058,-0.01494542,-0.01224015,0.00818586,0.00116473,-0.00122812,0.00020602,-0.00021286,-0.00129585,0.00355161,-0.00018646,-0.0022193,-0.00277015,0.00019819

Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.03965703 Cataluña

**Defcon2** · 06-01-2020, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Que os sale?

Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029,0.126344,0.146236,0.041106, 0.005491,0.044316,0,-0.00047,0.005077,0.01718,0.033167,-0.004709,0.014687,-0.017839,-0.009634,0.005157,-0.000928,-0.003781,-0.001774,-0.001634,-0.003877,0.004118,0.008037,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.00012
Berber,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.7523% / 0.02752307
94.4 Spanish_Pirineu
5.6 Berber

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.7637% / 0.02763710
88.4 Spanish_Pirineu
11.6 Berber

mitalit · 06-01-2020, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by gixajo

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.1347% / 0.02134723
96.4 Spanish_Pirineu
3.6 Berber

Es una buena manera de ver el na antiguo y moderno, no? Las muestras vascas no son buenas como ya comente, pero esta es 100 europea y "española".

**Defcon2** · 06-01-2020, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Es una buena manera de ver el na antiguo y moderno, no? Las muestras vascas no son buenas como ya comente, pero esta es 100 europea y "española".

Target: Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029
Distance: 2.5100% / 0.02510013
53.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
34.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.8 WHG
0.4 Han
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Tiene el mismo problema que los vascos ya que no tiene norteafricano.

mitalit · 06-01-2020, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Defcon2

Target: Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029
Distance: 2.5100% / 0.02510013
53.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
34.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.8 WHG
0.4 Han
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Tiene el mismo problema que los vascos ya que no tiene norteafricano.

Que te sale en esta?
Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029,0.126344,0.146236,0.041106, 0.005491,0.044316,0,-0.00047,0.005077,0.01718,0.033167,-0.004709,0.014687,-0.017839,-0.009634,0.005157,-0.000928,-0.003781,-0.001774,-0.001634,-0.003877,0.004118,0.008037,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.00012
Berber,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671
Arab,0.0542556,0.1360809,-0.0682589,-0.1211978,-0.0037272,-0.056305,-0.0130301,-0.0088204,0.0628798,-0.002045,0.0167981,-0.0325711,0.0657411,0.0058413,0.0080528,0.0270778,-0.0210643,0.0028717,-0.0019133,0.0248312,0.0137259,0.0160887,-0.0087369,0.0027848,-0.0052289
Levantine,0.0853674,0.1486734,-0.0573978,-0.0925072,-0.0096018,-0.0350286,-0.002209,-0.0081688,0.016321,0.008237,0.0091586,-0.0099212,0.0204854,0.0118632,-0.0055372,0.0021214,-0.011239,0.0010134,0.0021116,-0.003652,-0.0005242,0.003116,0.000567,-0.0029402,0.0046462
Italian,0.1213354,0.1473534,0.0208925,-0.0145996,0.0292668,-0.0058844,0.0028435,0.0001615,0.0074653,0.0241279,-0.0002273,0.0063544,-0.0098859,-0.0045141,-0.0015744,-0.0027048,0.0011213,0.0008997,0.0021747,-0.0038269,-0.0025705,0.0018548,-0.0024033,0.0038316,-0.0014967
German,0.1302626,0.1373792,0.0579811,0.0387068,0.0 400035,0.0156461,0.0040665,0.0057865,0.003526,0.00 188,-0.0044133,0.0023732,-0.0053706,-0.0025417,0.0085125,0.0032913,-0.0032728,0.0016631,0.0033669,0.0017191,0.00314,0. 002005,7.18e-05,0.0083052,0.0002774
English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.03 92299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.00 56781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05

Si, no tiene nada de norteafricano. Incluso los franceses tienen, pero es una buena muestra para sacar el norteafricano sin filtros no?

**Defcon2** · 06-01-2020, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Que te sale en esta?
Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029,0.126344,0.146236,0.041106, 0.005491,0.044316,0,-0.00047,0.005077,0.01718,0.033167,-0.004709,0.014687,-0.017839,-0.009634,0.005157,-0.000928,-0.003781,-0.001774,-0.001634,-0.003877,0.004118,0.008037,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.00012
Berber,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671
Arab,0.0542556,0.1360809,-0.0682589,-0.1211978,-0.0037272,-0.056305,-0.0130301,-0.0088204,0.0628798,-0.002045,0.0167981,-0.0325711,0.0657411,0.0058413,0.0080528,0.0270778,-0.0210643,0.0028717,-0.0019133,0.0248312,0.0137259,0.0160887,-0.0087369,0.0027848,-0.0052289
Levantine,0.0853674,0.1486734,-0.0573978,-0.0925072,-0.0096018,-0.0350286,-0.002209,-0.0081688,0.016321,0.008237,0.0091586,-0.0099212,0.0204854,0.0118632,-0.0055372,0.0021214,-0.011239,0.0010134,0.0021116,-0.003652,-0.0005242,0.003116,0.000567,-0.0029402,0.0046462
Italian,0.1213354,0.1473534,0.0208925,-0.0145996,0.0292668,-0.0058844,0.0028435,0.0001615,0.0074653,0.0241279,-0.0002273,0.0063544,-0.0098859,-0.0045141,-0.0015744,-0.0027048,0.0011213,0.0008997,0.0021747,-0.0038269,-0.0025705,0.0018548,-0.0024033,0.0038316,-0.0014967
German,0.1302626,0.1373792,0.0579811,0.0387068,0.0 400035,0.0156461,0.0040665,0.0057865,0.003526,0.00 188,-0.0044133,0.0023732,-0.0053706,-0.0025417,0.0085125,0.0032913,-0.0032728,0.0016631,0.0033669,0.0017191,0.00314,0. 002005,7.18e-05,0.0083052,0.0002774
English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.03 92299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.00 56781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05

Si, no tiene nada de norteafricano. Incluso los franceses tienen, pero es una buena muestra para sacar el norteafricano sin filtros no?

Pero tu modelo compensa la falta de NA en Pirineu para otorgarle porcentaje a Berber, que además tiene un componente granjero elevado. Me sale lo mismo.

**~~gixajo~~** · 06-01-2020, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rocinante

Yo creo que siempre scaled, honestamente no conozco alguien que me haya dicho que unscaled de verdad valga la pena. No se puede hacer un solo sample iberico, porque aun asi siendo homogeneos, hay ciertas diferencias bajo lupa que ya El Club, o sea, nosotros, los guays, sabemos reconocerlas.

A ver si con esta acierto más, ya me estoy empezando a mosquear:

Más te vale que estés a menos de 3 de distancia!!!

Le añadí más cifras decimales al nuevo promedio , haciendo el método opuesto al redondeo, según he creido conveniente.

Code:

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