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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Not Pays de la Loire. Pays de la Loire is Central France.
    Excuse me?

    Is this Central France to you? I'm sure at least Western and NW departments are in the NW cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Excuse me?

    Is this Central France to you? I'm sure at least Western and NW departments are in the NW cluster.
    No they are in the Central French cluster oddly. The border is the "Loire" at the north of the region.

    Maybe a tiny part, the northernmost would be in the NW cluster but most of the region, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    No they are in the Central French cluster oddly. The border is the "Loire" at the north of the region.

    Maybe a tiny part, the northernmost would be in the NW cluster but most of the region, no.
    So how many French can be accepted as Northwestern Europeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    So how many French can be accepted as Northwestern Europeans?
    In the paper there's a map. All those who are predominantly in blue or pink color could be possibly accepted as NW Euros, Brittons are even closer to Brits than to Central French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    France stayed relatively untounched from "mass migrations", there were some spaniards that have gone in the North in the 17th century. That could explain why some results from there show modeling with spaniard populations like 90% French Nord + 10% Spaniard...
    My father is modeling like that and he don't have any spaniard ancestries



    K13:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 8.975968
    2 Southeast_English @ 9.547073
    3 French @ 10.771866
    4 South_Dutch @ 10.842543
    5 West_Scottish @ 11.667791
    6 Orcadian @ 11.860160
    7 Irish @ 12.321325
    8 West_German @ 12.362424
    9 North_Dutch @ 14.050799
    10 Danish @ 14.492908
    11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 15.000998
    12 North_German @ 15.831644
    13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.208231
    14 Spanish_Cantabria @ 16.523447
    15 Southwest_French @ 16.639233
    16 Norwegian @ 16.707010
    17 Spanish_Aragon @ 17.254635
    18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 17.564276
    19 Spanish_Murcia @ 17.639174
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 17.658463

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61% West_Scottish + 39% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.2
    2 69.1% Southwest_English + 30.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.47
    3 59.7% Irish + 40.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.71
    4 69.9% Southwest_English + 30.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.73
    5 61.7% West_Scottish + 38.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.78
    6 62% West_Scottish + 38% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.86
    7 61.8% West_Scottish + 38.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.87
    8 70.4% Southwest_English + 29.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.89
    9 72.5% Southeast_English + 27.5% French_Basque @ 4.9
    10 65% West_Scottish + 35% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.92
    11 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.93
    12 73.1% Southwest_English + 26.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.94
    13 70.4% Southwest_English + 29.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.94
    14 57.3% West_Scottish + 42.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.98
    15 66.4% Southwest_English + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.98
    16 61% Orcadian + 39% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.98
    17 68.7% Southwest_English + 31.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.1
    18 59.8% West_Scottish + 40.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.14
    19 73% Southwest_English + 27% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.31
    20 60.7% West_Scottish + 39.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.34



    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Aragon +50% West_Scottish @ 5.467800


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.171289


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.171289
    2 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.239985
    3 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 5.249857
    4 French + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.291347
    5 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 5.321480
    6 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 5.388845
    7 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.416526
    8 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.422565
    9 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.425607
    10 French + French_Basque + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.429473
    11 French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.429847
    12 French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.429970
    13 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.432822
    14 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.453251
    15 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.465650
    16 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.467800
    17 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 5.471735
    18 French + French_Basque + Irish + Southeast_English @ 5.476704
    19 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 5.481054
    20 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 5.492773




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    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 60.4% Orcadian + 39.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
    2 66.1% Orcadian + 33.9% French_Basque @ 4.09
    3 62.5% West_Scottish + 37.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.17
    4 73.9% Southeast_English + 26.1% French_Basque @ 4.2
    5 60.5% Orcadian + 39.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.2
    6 60.5% Orcadian + 39.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.21
    7 69.3% Southeast_English + 30.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.32
    8 64% Irish + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.4
    9 62.6% West_Scottish + 37.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.53
    10 64.1% Orcadian + 35.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.62
    11 62.7% West_Scottish + 37.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.66
    12 69.7% Southeast_English + 30.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.67
    13 76.2% Southwest_English + 23.8% French_Basque @ 4.69
    14 58.9% Orcadian + 41.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.71
    15 64.2% Irish + 35.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.72
    16 68.4% West_Scottish + 31.6% French_Basque @ 4.78
    17 59.2% Orcadian + 40.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.81
    18 60.9% West_Scottish + 39.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.81
    19 70% Southeast_English + 30% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
    20 64.4% Irish + 35.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.88


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.084285


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.084285


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.352415
    2 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.495479
    3 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.530705
    4 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.546441
    5 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 4.596670
    6 French + French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian @ 4.608884
    7 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 4.726233
    8 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.734296
    9 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.739234
    10 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.768559
    11 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.810252
    12 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 4.812558
    13 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 4.857675
    14 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.868325
    15 French + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.882214
    16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 4.890987
    17 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.896406
    18 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 4.907880
    19 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 4.926623
    20 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 4.937516
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    Quote Originally Posted by dududud View Post
    My father is modeling like that and he don't have any spaniard ancestries

    Genealogy: https://gw.geneanet.org/thexos_w?lan...=...&type=tree


    K13:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 8.975968
    2 Southeast_English @ 9.547073
    3 French @ 10.771866
    4 South_Dutch @ 10.842543
    5 West_Scottish @ 11.667791
    6 Orcadian @ 11.860160
    7 Irish @ 12.321325
    8 West_German @ 12.362424
    9 North_Dutch @ 14.050799
    10 Danish @ 14.492908
    11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 15.000998
    12 North_German @ 15.831644
    13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.208231
    14 Spanish_Cantabria @ 16.523447
    15 Southwest_French @ 16.639233
    16 Norwegian @ 16.707010
    17 Spanish_Aragon @ 17.254635
    18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 17.564276
    19 Spanish_Murcia @ 17.639174
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 17.658463

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61% West_Scottish + 39% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.2
    2 69.1% Southwest_English + 30.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.47
    3 59.7% Irish + 40.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.71
    4 69.9% Southwest_English + 30.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.73
    5 61.7% West_Scottish + 38.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.78
    6 62% West_Scottish + 38% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.86
    7 61.8% West_Scottish + 38.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.87
    8 70.4% Southwest_English + 29.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.89
    9 72.5% Southeast_English + 27.5% French_Basque @ 4.9
    10 65% West_Scottish + 35% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.92
    11 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.93
    12 73.1% Southwest_English + 26.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.94
    13 70.4% Southwest_English + 29.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.94
    14 57.3% West_Scottish + 42.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.98
    15 66.4% Southwest_English + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.98
    16 61% Orcadian + 39% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.98
    17 68.7% Southwest_English + 31.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.1
    18 59.8% West_Scottish + 40.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.14
    19 73% Southwest_English + 27% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.31
    20 60.7% West_Scottish + 39.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.34



    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Aragon +50% West_Scottish @ 5.467800


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.171289


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.171289
    2 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.239985
    3 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 5.249857
    4 French + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.291347
    5 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 5.321480
    6 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 5.388845
    7 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.416526
    8 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.422565
    9 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.425607
    10 French + French_Basque + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.429473
    11 French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.429847
    12 French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.429970
    13 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.432822
    14 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.453251
    15 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.465650
    16 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.467800
    17 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 5.471735
    18 French + French_Basque + Irish + Southeast_English @ 5.476704
    19 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 5.481054
    20 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 5.492773




    K15

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 60.4% Orcadian + 39.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
    2 66.1% Orcadian + 33.9% French_Basque @ 4.09
    3 62.5% West_Scottish + 37.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.17
    4 73.9% Southeast_English + 26.1% French_Basque @ 4.2
    5 60.5% Orcadian + 39.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.2
    6 60.5% Orcadian + 39.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.21
    7 69.3% Southeast_English + 30.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.32
    8 64% Irish + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.4
    9 62.6% West_Scottish + 37.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.53
    10 64.1% Orcadian + 35.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.62
    11 62.7% West_Scottish + 37.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.66
    12 69.7% Southeast_English + 30.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.67
    13 76.2% Southwest_English + 23.8% French_Basque @ 4.69
    14 58.9% Orcadian + 41.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.71
    15 64.2% Irish + 35.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.72
    16 68.4% West_Scottish + 31.6% French_Basque @ 4.78
    17 59.2% Orcadian + 40.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.81
    18 60.9% West_Scottish + 39.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.81
    19 70% Southeast_English + 30% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
    20 64.4% Irish + 35.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.88


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.084285


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.084285


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.352415
    2 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.495479
    3 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.530705
    4 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.546441
    5 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 4.596670
    6 French + French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian @ 4.608884
    7 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 4.726233
    8 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.734296
    9 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.739234
    10 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.768559
    11 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.810252
    12 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 4.812558
    13 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 4.857675
    14 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.868325
    15 French + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.882214
    16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 4.890987
    17 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.896406
    18 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 4.907880
    19 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 4.926623
    20 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 4.937516
    Yes but it's normal for any french to be modeled like that. I was talking rather about the fact that there are people from Belgium or Netherlands that have a bit of Spanish and that could be Spanish soliders settling there. The same for the area north of Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dududud View Post
    My father is modeling like that and he don't have any spaniard ancestries

    Genealogy: https://gw.geneanet.org/thexos_w?lan...=...&type=tree


    K13:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 8.975968
    2 Southeast_English @ 9.547073
    3 French @ 10.771866
    4 South_Dutch @ 10.842543
    5 West_Scottish @ 11.667791
    6 Orcadian @ 11.860160
    7 Irish @ 12.321325
    8 West_German @ 12.362424
    9 North_Dutch @ 14.050799
    10 Danish @ 14.492908
    11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 15.000998
    12 North_German @ 15.831644
    13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.208231
    14 Spanish_Cantabria @ 16.523447
    15 Southwest_French @ 16.639233
    16 Norwegian @ 16.707010
    17 Spanish_Aragon @ 17.254635
    18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 17.564276
    19 Spanish_Murcia @ 17.639174
    20 Spanish_Galicia @ 17.658463

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61% West_Scottish + 39% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.2
    2 69.1% Southwest_English + 30.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.47
    3 59.7% Irish + 40.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.71
    4 69.9% Southwest_English + 30.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.73
    5 61.7% West_Scottish + 38.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.78
    6 62% West_Scottish + 38% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.86
    7 61.8% West_Scottish + 38.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.87
    8 70.4% Southwest_English + 29.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.89
    9 72.5% Southeast_English + 27.5% French_Basque @ 4.9
    10 65% West_Scottish + 35% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.92
    11 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.93
    12 73.1% Southwest_English + 26.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.94
    13 70.4% Southwest_English + 29.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.94
    14 57.3% West_Scottish + 42.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.98
    15 66.4% Southwest_English + 33.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.98
    16 61% Orcadian + 39% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.98
    17 68.7% Southwest_English + 31.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.1
    18 59.8% West_Scottish + 40.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.14
    19 73% Southwest_English + 27% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.31
    20 60.7% West_Scottish + 39.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.34



    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Aragon +50% West_Scottish @ 5.467800


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.171289


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.171289
    2 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.239985
    3 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 5.249857
    4 French + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.291347
    5 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 5.321480
    6 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 5.388845
    7 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.416526
    8 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.422565
    9 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.425607
    10 French + French_Basque + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 5.429473
    11 French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.429847
    12 French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.429970
    13 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.432822
    14 French_Basque + Norwegian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.453251
    15 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.465650
    16 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.467800
    17 Danish + French_Basque + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 5.471735
    18 French + French_Basque + Irish + Southeast_English @ 5.476704
    19 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 5.481054
    20 French + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 5.492773




    K15

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 60.4% Orcadian + 39.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.69
    2 66.1% Orcadian + 33.9% French_Basque @ 4.09
    3 62.5% West_Scottish + 37.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.17
    4 73.9% Southeast_English + 26.1% French_Basque @ 4.2
    5 60.5% Orcadian + 39.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.2
    6 60.5% Orcadian + 39.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.21
    7 69.3% Southeast_English + 30.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.32
    8 64% Irish + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.4
    9 62.6% West_Scottish + 37.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.53
    10 64.1% Orcadian + 35.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.62
    11 62.7% West_Scottish + 37.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.66
    12 69.7% Southeast_English + 30.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.67
    13 76.2% Southwest_English + 23.8% French_Basque @ 4.69
    14 58.9% Orcadian + 41.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.71
    15 64.2% Irish + 35.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.72
    16 68.4% West_Scottish + 31.6% French_Basque @ 4.78
    17 59.2% Orcadian + 40.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.81
    18 60.9% West_Scottish + 39.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.81
    19 70% Southeast_English + 30% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.82
    20 64.4% Irish + 35.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.88


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.084285


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.084285


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.352415
    2 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.495479
    3 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.530705
    4 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.546441
    5 French + French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 4.596670
    6 French + French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian @ 4.608884
    7 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Norwegian @ 4.726233
    8 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.734296
    9 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.739234
    10 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.768559
    11 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.810252
    12 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 4.812558
    13 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 4.857675
    14 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.868325
    15 French + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.882214
    16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Norwegian @ 4.890987
    17 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.896406
    18 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 4.907880
    19 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 4.926623
    20 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 4.937516
    Yes but it's normal for any french to be modeled like that. I was talking rather about the fact that there are people from Belgium or Netherlands that have a bit of Spanish and that could be Spanish soliders settling there. The same for the area north of Paris.

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    Accordez-moi toujours asile et sűreté,
    Car j'aime ŕ respirer l'air pur de vos montagnes,
    Je suis la Liberté ! la Liberté !"


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    There are French with 66% Neolithic Farmer ancestry LOL.

    The results show that the French genetic landscape is predominantly of EF-related ancestry (ancestry proportions vary between 46.5 and 66.2%, Fig. 4b), which was found to follow a northsouth cline (Fig. S17) with the lowest values found in the NW (<50%).
    It means Southern French are full blown Southern Europeans, not just ''intermediary''.

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    interesting.northwest has the highest steppe, the Bretons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    There are French with 66% Neolithic Farmer ancestry LOL.



    It means Southern French are full blown Southern Europeans, not just ''intermediary''.
    IMO Southern French plot northern of Spaniards and Italians, to me they are intermediates between SW Europe and proper Central Europe not full blown Southerners.

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