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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    I don't know about ethnic arab Christians, but I know there was an incident in Iraq in the 2000s where an ethnic Yezidi girl was stoned to death for dating an Sunni Male in Northern Iraq. It caused an uproar and US troops had to control cloud movements. Also Assyrians are endogamous and actively carry out disownment and I would not be surprised if they carried out honor killings! Also honor killings is common in kurdish communities. Afghans do as well in Europe and America. Tbh Honor killings seem to be a West Asian thing than an religious thing.
    Well, I know that Arab Christians of the Levant don't do such things really, and many of these non-Arab ethnic groups like Kurds and Afghans(Pashtuns) are Sunni Muslims as well. I don't know much of the Assyrians, so I can't say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Well, I know that Arab Christians of the Levant don't do such things really, and many of these non-Arab ethnic groups like Kurds and Afghans(Pashtuns) are Sunni Muslims as well. I don't know much of the Assyrians, so I can't say.
    Yezidis do it. So do Sikhs. Barber and horners don't do such things often. The common denominator here is high West asian ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Yezidis do it. So do Sikhs. Barber and horners don't do such things often. The common denominator here is high West asian ancestry
    I don't think that's the case really since it's based on cultural grounds than anything. I mean, the fact that Persians don't it and they're west asians genetically just destroys this notion entirely really. I do know that Yezidis, like the Druze and Assyrians, are VERY endogamous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    If I remember correctly, Europeans are Christians. These look like Muslim savages to me.
    I remember a bosniak student who was an in closet atheists, but was too scared to take off the hijab because of her parents. She had pale skin and blue eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    I don't think that's the case really since it's based on cultural grounds than anything. I mean, the fact that Persians don't it and they're west asians genetically just destroys this notion entirely really. I do know that Yezidis, like the Druze and Assyrians, are VERY endogamous.
    Where the concept of honor killings even come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Where the concept of honor killings even come from?
    Since the dawn of human civilization really. I mean, back in the day, European men for example would publicly humiliate their own women if she was caught having sex or married with an enemy tribesman. There were times that even killings against such women back then was normal. There's a scientific reasoning behind it since women in general tend to be less loyal to their tribe than men, and really, her chances of getting pregnant with an alpha male is far greater if she slept with an alpha male from the enemy tribe while the men of her tribe would get fuck all and get little to no chance to breed for the next generation. Honor killings or humiliation is something that human men did to protect their own women to themselves. Of course, cultures and societies differ from one another, so you can't say that Persians or Levantine Christians behave like Kurds or Yezidis when it comes to these things, you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Since the dawn of human civilization really. I mean, back in the day, European men for example would publicly humiliate their own women if she was caught having sex or married with an enemy tribesman. There are times that even killings against such women back then was normal. There's a scientific reasoning behind it since women in general tend to be less loyal to their tribe than men, and really, her chances of getting pregnant with an alpha male is far greater if she slept with an alpha male from the enemy tribe while the men of her tribe would get fuck all and get little to no chance to breed for the next generation. Honor killings or humiliation is something that human men did to protect their own women to themselves. Of course, cultures and societies differ from one another, so you can't say that Persians or Levantine Christians behave like Kurds or Yezidis when it comes to these things, you know?
    Perhaps, the fact that we no longer do it here in Europe (the last outbreak of that was during World War II - except they weren't killed but publicly shamed and humiliated) is because society has become safer. Although - as late as the 1950s, women in my native province who had broken their marriage vows were chased around the village and were publicly shamed. Who knows what the future can bring, hmm ? But honour killings have never been a thing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Since the dawn of human civilization really. I mean, back in the day, European men for example would publicly humiliate their own women if she was caught having sex or married with an enemy tribesman. There were times that even killings against such women back then was normal. There's a scientific reasoning behind it since women in general tend to be less loyal to their tribe than men, and really, her chances of getting pregnant with an alpha male is far greater if she slept with an alpha male from the enemy tribe while the men of her tribe would get fuck all and get little to no chance to breed for the next generation. Honor killings or humiliation is something that human men did to protect their own women to themselves. Of course, cultures and societies differ from one another, so you can't say that Persians or Levantine Christians behave like Kurds or Yezidis when it comes to these things, you know?
    Yes. It's called hypergAmy. But Western don't kill their women for it. They just cope or move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Well, I know that Arab Christians of the Levant don't do such things really, and many of these non-Arab ethnic groups like Kurds and Afghans(Pashtuns) are Sunni Muslims as well. I don't know much of the Assyrians, so I can't say.
    Maghreb is suni also but there are no honor killings in our culture, protectiveness yes but honor killings no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Perhaps, the fact that we no longer do it here in Europe (the last outbreak of that was during World War II - except they weren't killed but publicly shamed and humiliated) is because society has become safer. Although - as late as the 1950s, women in my native province who had broken their marriage vows were chased around the village and were publicly shamed. Who knows what the future can bring, hmm ? But honour killings have never been a thing here.
    But they were not killed. But difference. Nor did the family need to "avange" the shame.

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