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comparison of Greeks with Bulgarians and North "Macedonians": who is the "turkish"
I really hate what i am going to do, and at least Bulgarians should not take it personal but there is a specific motive, which is the video that was posted with the title "greeks are turks who think they are italians" in a recent thread
first of all Greeks do not pretend to be Italians or whatever else. Greeks are Greeks, and never promoted themselves as Italians or partially Italians or Italian like or anything like that.
If foreigners often see links and similarities between Greece and Southern-half of italy (rather than the country as a whole, as italy is far from being homogenous and its northern part is pretty irrelevant to Greece) that's not because any Greek ever promoted this idea, but because foreigners usually notice similarities between the two countries* in terms of physical traits and social/cultural traits, which have is the result of several historical connections between the two countries (ancient Greek colonies in Italy, Roman rule in Greece, Byzantine rule in south Italy, Frankish, Venetian and Genovese rule in Southern half mainland Greece and Greek islands, and later venetian rule in ionian islands and some other parts of Greece) and of course a common Mediterranean geographical background of the two. Point remains that Greeks never "pretended" to be something
but since it was a Bulgarian banner calling us "Turks":
historically, ALL of Bulgaria has been under ottoman rule, most of it for 490 years. Greece on the other hand has parts which have NEVER been under Ottomans in its History: Ionian islands have never been ottoman, being under Venetian, French, Russian and British rule for all of the ottoman period, and Mani in south peloponnese was autonomous
As for the rest of Greece, it really depends upon region, but for the most part Greeks (Southern Greeks and islanders) were for at east 1.5-2 centuries less under ottomans than Bulgarians, and influences in the two populations are mutual to those years. the Ottoman ruled part of Greece was occupied nearly one century later (some parts even 3 centuries later, tinos island in Cyclades was occupied as late as in 1715) and got liberated nearly 1 century earlier. There's no comparison
But the most important is the genetic East Asian influence in the two countries
if Greeks were "Turkish" they would at least have a tiny Turkish genetic influence, like almost all of our northern neighbors have
the conclusion is that you can't accuse anyone for being an "X" when you are obviously closer to this "X" from technically every aspect.
And no, in no case I consider any of the ethnicities in question as "Turkish", it's them blaming us for being "turkish" when we are obviously more distant from Turks than both are
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Originally Posted by Benyzero
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