Turks vs Romans. First records.

[Kmakkmak]

what is it?

[Heaven]

Whatever, tuff guy! So, your tuff guys didn't fight there? So what? Regardless of who fought there, they undeniably served the interests and ambitions of the Ottoman Sultans. And, my point was that Europe stopped the rising tide of the Ottoman Empire, at such battles.

2 soldiers killed in Artsakh


STEPANAKERT, FEBRUARY 12, ARMENPRESS. Soldier of the Defense Army of Artsakh Tigran Manvelyan, born in 2000, received a fatal gunshot wound at a military position on February 12, at around 11:30, the Defense Ministry of Artsakh told Armenpress, adding that the circumstances around the incident are yet to be determined.

[Heaven]

Byzantium state bureaucracy granted higher status to Turkic khagan than to pope of Vatican or Frankish (R*man) emperor.

[renaissance12]

My great ancestors

Some Venetians ? eh eh

[renaissance12]

Why do Turks use latin alphabet and not arabic alphabet ?

[Hajimurad]

Why do Turks use latin alphabet and not arabic alphabet ?

Ataturk introduced Latin alphabet.

[Heaven]

Why do Turks use latin alphabet and not arabic alphabet ?

Lesser of the evil.
as well as a result of propagation by German invaders of Rome.
A bit why proud Latins type in English out here.

[Marmara]

Whatever, tuff guy! So, your tuff guys didn't fight there? So what? Regardless of who fought there, they undeniably served the interests and ambitions of the Ottoman Sultans. And, my point was that Europe stopped the rising tide of the Ottoman Empire, at such battles.

I'm sure that the Sultans would've loved to cuck Protestant Europe under their boot, as vassals.

At that time, Algerian Barbary Corsairs owed their allegiance to the Sultans (dedicated to his interests and ambitions). In that capacity they were a piece of the empire. You probably have no problem taking credit for their victories, but disown them anyway.

As for Janissaries, the fruit of Islamized Children, plucked from Christian Parents, taken away from people whom nurtured them, and groomed to do everything in their power to destroy the very people who brought them onto the earth. You should show some gratitude to them, because they helped deliver Constantinople into the hands of the Sultans.

Ottomans and Göktürks, the two are completely different from each other. Ottomans were much more Perso-Byzantinian than Turkic.

[Heaven]

Ottomans and Göktürks, the two are completely different from each other. Ottomans were much more Perso-Byzantinian than Turkic.

Actually you are right but forgot one, most important aspect of Ottomans: Arab identity.
They were not Orthodox-Zoroastrian praying in Armenian...
They were carrying a civilizational flag belonging to Arabs.

[Salonikios]

Actually you are right but forgot one, most important aspect of Ottomans: Arab identity.
They were not Orthodox-Zoroastrian praying in Armenian...
They were carrying a civilizational flag belonging to Arabs.

What is going to happen If Turkey becomes more and more religious? It does not seem good.