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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    Thats because the English could not penetrate the basic Hindu or Muslim society. The core culture is a fully developed and has been used for many millenia by the people. Western powers could not move further militarily or culturally beyond that point.

    Whereas in Americas Spanish basically found the older society too simple so they recreated a European culture with substantial contribution.
    Plus the Spanish (and the Portuguese, British and French) introduced diseases that the Amerindians were not used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Absolutely no, islam world is far away from us, more than India.
    If you regard as European only Viking heathen society, then yes. But Christian and Muslim societies both adhere Abrahamic religions, use Phoenician-derived alphabets, influenced by Greek philosophy and both are patriarchal (I regard as European Christian only traditional conservatives not modern SJWs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    If you regard as European only Viking heathen society, then yes. But Christian and Muslim societies both adhere Abrahamic religions, use Phoenician-derived alphabets, influenced by Greek philosophy and both are patriarchal (I regard as European Christian only traditional conservatives not modern SJWs).
    Those are precisely the things I took into consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Plus the Spanish (and the Portuguese, British and French) introduced diseases that the Amerindians were not used to.
    These Amerinds were isolated for too long (17-19k years) that created a lot of fundamental weakness in health, culture, society, materials etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    If you regard as European only Viking heathen society, then yes. But Christian and Muslim societies both adhere Abrahamic religions, use Phoenician-derived alphabets, influenced by Greek philosophy and both are patriarchal (I regard as European Christian only traditional conservatives not modern SJWs).
    The Western philosophy after renaissance totally diverged from the original Abrahamic principles. There is vibrant new modern culture developed that went far and beyond the existing written sources. The college culture etc.. were totally redesigned after imperial age & european conquest to create a newer model based on best of older Western ideals. If you look at the newer institutions in US, Canada, Latin America, Russia you will see a resurgent Western culture that draws from many sources and people are also more liberal while there is more investments into modern world.

    The European vassal states that are self-ruling like India etc... were made part of this new resurgent Western culture movement. Most of the Indian education, public institutions mirror the great minds of resurgent Western though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    The Western philosophy after renaissance totally diverged from the original Abrahamic principles. There is vibrant new modern culture developed that went far and beyond the existing written sources. The college culture etc.. were totally redesigned after imperial age & european conquest to create a newer model based on best of older Western ideals. If you look at the newer institutions in US, Canada, Latin America you will see a resurgent Western culture that draws from many sources and people are also more liberal while there is more investments into modern world.
    Western and Arab-Persian philosophy aren't based on Abrahamic principles but arose from ancient Greek philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Latin America is culturally mostly Western anyway. Now in terms of economics, I do agree it is less 'Westernised' (if by that you mean 'affluent') than much of East Asia and the Middle East, but that's another matter.
    Latin America in general, with the exception of few like Argentina, is very culturally distinct from the western world, especially north America like the US and Canada. As for East Asians and Middle Easterners, most of them are pretty well assimilated in contrast to those in Europe due to politics and religion. There aren't many ethnic enclaves in the US in contrast to the UK for example where one part of London resembles like Bombay or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Western and Arab-Persian philosophy aren't based on Abrahamic principles but arose from ancient Greek philosophy.
    Actually, they combine aspects of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Western and Arab-Persian philosophy aren't based on Abrahamic principles but arose from ancient Greek philosophy.
    Obviously. Not to mention that we have a lot of cultural exchanges between the MENA and the South Asian worlds since ancient times and all.

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