"Anti-Americanism is really incoherent". Discuss.

[JosephK]

Many live in 4 in a house or apartment and earn the minimum salary in the region.

Yes, and that's sort of my point. Migrants tend to live in communities that not only provide mutual support when they're here in the US, but also have "fall-back" families and communities back home. This is what gives them the edge.

Also, it's pretty typical nowadays for even native-born Americans. Even in a place like where I work, younger professionals making higher than average salaries still have to share an apartment with two or three other people.

[Daco Celtic]

Hey Decker, is America the best?

[luc2112]

Yes, and that's sort of my point. Migrants tend to live in communities that not only provide mutual support when they're here in the US, but also have "fall-back" families and communities back home. This is what gives them the edge.

Also, it's pretty typical nowadays for even native-born Americans. Even in a place like where I work, younger professionals making higher than average salaries still have to share an apartment with two or three other people.

I've seen many (mainly in Europe) who send pictures next to cars (who is not the owner) that don't exist here to say that they are fine!

[Smeagol]

In the US, only Native Americans (reduced to alcoholics in rez) and some small east and sothern coast communes like the Arnish have comparable traditions and roots.

This argument has never made sense to me. Wouldn't Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter count for that here?

(only diference in dialect, modern white southerners are not really that different from west coast city white urbanites).

Well as someone who's lived in both the rural south and urban northeastern areas, I'd disagree.

[JosephK]

This argument has never made sense to me. Wouldn't Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter count for that here?

I know what he means-- only a specific category of Americans take those things seriously, most people disparage them.

I was blown away when I lived in the UK just how many people--everyone, even students--would wear the red poppy and for how long they would do it. Like it legitimately meant something to them. There's no way that most Americans would do anything like that.

[Smeagol]

I know what he means-- only a specific category of Americans take those things seriously, most people disparage them.

This is not my experience.

[JosephK]

I've seen many (mainly in Europe) who send pictures next to cars (who is not the owner) that don't exist here to say that they are fine!

That's hilarious... I live near a Lamborghini/Maserati dealership and there's always loads of MENA and Pakis having their photos taken sitting in and posing around the cars, which the dealership apparently parks along the street specifically for that purpose.

[Teutone]

The United States is the most powerful country on this planet, its far from perfect but which superpower was?

Its the most humane superpower we ever saw and the only one capable to oppress and destroy the entire planet but it doesnt.

Instead of having your little village goatherder European mindset of jealousy, you should admire or thrive for greatness.

[Tooting Carmen]

The United States is the most powerful country on this planet, its far from perfect but which superpower was?

Its the most humane superpower we ever saw and the only one capable to oppress and destroy the entire planet but it doesnt.

Instead of having your little village goatherder European mindset of jealousy, you should admire or thrive for greatness.

I do agree that, when some Europeans (or Arabs or Chinese) criticise American imperialism, there is often a whiff of cognitive dissonance and pathological projection involved.

[The Lawspeaker]

But to a large extent that surely gets things the wrong way round? It was Europeans who wanted to live in freedom who therefore fled to the US and wanted to get away from the old ways of the Continent. It has been precisely the deformities of Europe - feudalism, monarchy, Communism, Fascism - that drove millions to the US, not the opposite.

And do they live in freedom now ? They live under a corporatocracy worse than anything in Europe and can vote for two parties that are, essentially, the same. Some freedom. We should be copying the American Bill of Rights lock, stock and barrel - to the last dot and comma - and enshrine them into our own constitutions, combining them with our own positive freedoms and social rights. That way you get a good combination of negative freedoms and freedom from want. In other words: you take a step towards a system that serves the people.