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    I get Galicia in my paid genetic reports BTW

    Is a mix African, Sephardic Jewish, Basque roughly speaking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    Not 30%, sorry i wrote it accidentally. Also what i meant is all MENA markers, they could reach considerable numbers.
    Exactly..

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    I've seen a Trapani result reaching 9% North-African on 23andme, never seen that with any other european. So Sicilians can have very outlying people but overall there's more NA admixture in Iberia I would say, and Sicilians have strong influences from East Med/Caucasus region more than North-African or Arabian.

    Why Trapani score more North-African ? Likely Arab Era and Punic heritage. Don't forget that Trapani is close to Palermo that was a very important city for Arabs in Sicily. Also, one thing, people from all the Middle-East and North-Africa came to Sicily and not all were expelled, some of them (actually many) were also assimilated and there were Egyptians, Berbers, Levantines and even Arabs.

    It's true that Normans ended the Emirate of Sicily but it's also true that Federick II of Hohenstaufen kept Arab scholars, musicists, scientists to his court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    I get Galicia in my paid genetic reports BTW

    Is a mix African, Sephardic Jewish, Basque roughly speaking
    No sir, that's not true.

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    Maybe some people Non Mainland Iberians i mean people from Spanish or Portugese speaking Islands between Iberia and Africa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    No sir, that's not true.
    Call me Tariq from now, if I wasn't an I my other Grandfather was E haplo

    And in this order: Basque (which encompass Celtiberian admixture white people European), Sephardic Jewish (possible other Jewish), African (Iberomaurusian sample is SSA admixed already)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    Call me Tariq from now, if I wasn't an I my other Grandfather was E haplo

    And in this order: Basque (which encompass Celtiberian admixture white people European), Sephardic Jewish (possible other Jewish), African (Iberomaurusian sample is SSA admixed already)
    I've heard a lot about the famous conversos in Spain but I'm still waiting to see one. But generally speaking as Italy we don't have lot of samples coming from Spain so there are surely a substantial portion that will have some "back" jewish ancestry. Even if in most cases it's probably "diluted" nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I've heard a lot about the famous conversos in Spain but I'm still waiting to see one. But generally speaking as Italy we don't have lot of samples coming from Spain so there are surely a substantial portion that will have some "back" jewish ancestry. Even if in most cases it's probably "diluted" nowadays.
    I just check in my matches to see these converso, they are all there, you know their names all very common in Southern Europe and beyond

    Ferreira, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    Call me Tariq from now, if I wasn't an I my other Grandfather was E haplo

    And in this order: Basque (which encompass Celtiberian admixture white people European), Sephardic Jewish (possible other Jewish), African (Iberomaurusian sample is SSA admixed already)
    Basques are not celtiberians, they are an unmixed iberian tribe. Galicians are mainly celtiberians, with suebi, ibero-marussian and slight roman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    Basques are not celtiberians, they are an unmixed iberian tribe. Galicians are mainly celtiberians, with suebi, ibero-marussian and slight roman.
    I don't think so buddy, but there is definitely some small amount of Northern European input in Iberia however it got sexually distributed, probably the Gothic and Vandalic rape squads, possibly Scythians too

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