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    There would be no problem at all. I asked why, i want to know peoples opinions. Is it because of admixture or because of their core population being a bit darker than other's south Europeans? Anyway, the difference is really small, with the Spanish and Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaximander View Post
    Yes, i found neglectible difference between central and south Italy, but the northern Italians were visibly lighter. To be clear to u i didnt count those with Germanic(Austrian) sounding surnames in the north Italians, but they were like 1/100 of the north Italians. Listen dude , i dont love the north Italians, because they mostly descriminate on the southern, and callin them mafiozi and zingari, but nuetrality is nuetrality and truth is truth. I would have no reason to present the Portuguese with half the percentage of North Italians.
    That's what you see in real life, Northern Italians are much more lighter than Central Italians and not just a little like your study proved.

    Did you counted Aostans ? They are more northern than Friulans and South Tyroleans.

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    Interesting, I thought Greeks were the darkest...

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    If I am not mistaken, European Mediterraneans lived in Middle East for 40,000 years before rushing through the Italic Peninsula and making their way into other parts of Europe. This fact suggests that those same Mediterraneans may have evolved darker characteristics as an adaptation to the environment and the climate found in Middle East.

    As for Portuguese people, they are a small population. There isn't so much genetic variety, which may explain why other Southern European populations are lighter.
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    Yes, this might be the truth, but south European/Mediteraneans, are different than the people living now in the middle east. Only a 20% of these 2 groups of populations overlap with themselves, and this 20% of Phenotype similarity might be product of relative recent mixture. In a similar manner a 20% of s.European-Mediteraneans overlap with Germanics, in colours

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    Yes, they have latin names, and i couldnt figure out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaximander View Post
    Yes, this might be the truth, but south European/Mediteraneans, are different than the people living now in the middle east. Only a 20% of these 2 groups of populations overlap with themselves, and this 20% of Phenotype similarity might be product of relative recent mixture. In a similar manner a 20% of s.European-Mediteraneans overlap with Germanics, in colours
    Of course they are different!

    Thing is, European Mediterraneans had decided to leave the region due to invasions and large amount of race-mixing that was occuring in there, and ended up settling in Southern Europe, the most comfortable place to be, given their dark characteristics.

    I have never claimed that Southern Europeans have significant Middle Eastern admixture. This would be a moronic statement, since the genetic clusters and DNA tests show the opposite.

    Hope it's all clear now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rᴜᴛʜʟᴇss View Post
    Of course they are different!

    Thing is, European Mediterraneans had decided to leave the region due to invasions and large amount of race-mixing that was occuring in there, and ended up settling in Southern Europe, the most comfortable place to be, given their dark characteristics.

    I have never claimed that Southern Europeans have significant Middle Eastern admixture. This would be a moronic statement, since the genetic clusters and DNA tests show the opposite.

    Hope it's all clear now!
    Ok, but the man u have as photo has said in a video of his(before his channel was taken down) that if one takes the scarf from the middle eastern woman they may be mistaken for south European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaximander View Post
    Ok, but the man u have as photo has said in a video of his(before his channel was taken down) that if one takes the scarf from the middle eastern woman they may be mistaken for south European.
    Don't worry about Varg. He changes his mind quite often. The other day he was stating on Twitter that Europeans with brown eyes and brown hair are overwhelmingly Thulêans.

    I like his music, though. It doesn't mean I agree with him on everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rᴜᴛʜʟᴇss View Post
    Don't worry about Varg. He changes his mind quite often. The other day he was stating on Twitter that Europeans with brown eyes and brown hair are overwhelmingly Thulêans.

    I like his music, though. It doesn't mean I agree with him on everything.
    Most of his socioeconomic and environmental approches are correct though, only when he messes with anthropological issues he fs things up

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