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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Even if Northeast African is not exactly SSA
    Weren't Somalis (who are part Caucasoid) used among references for that component?

    But David also posted the model for Iberomaurusians, as a mix of Natufian + Dinka + Yoruba.

    Dinka people are Nilotic, they look like this and they have no West Eurasian admixture:





    But they are not closely related to West Africans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Weren't Somalis (who are part Caucasoid) used among references for that component?
    It's supposed to be the ''black'' part of Somalis, because they also score SW Asian and Red Sea but it's tricky because it's a huge component on Maasai and other Southeastern Africans with confirmed West Eurasian ancestry, I believe Maasai and some Bantu speaking East Africans are like 10-20% ''Caucasoid''. Bantu N.E. and Bantu S.E. samples on Eurogenes also score Northeast African, but Yorubans, the purest ''SSAs'' don't score any.

    The reality is that these Eurogenes calculators are outdated to infer deep ancestry, they cannot reach good results as qGraph and other methods.

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    And why the fuck you edit posts after my responses? It's dishonest, don't think I'm not seeing you're editing your posts after I reply to you.

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    Chaos One:

    "Sahara" is not North African though.

    North Africa is to the north of Sahara.

    You would need to ask Tolan what he used for that component but it sounds like it could be samples from the speakers of Nilo-Saharan and Chadic.

    Maybe it should be called Sahel:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Bantu N.E. and Bantu S.E. samples on Eurogenes also score Northeast African, but Yorubans, the purest ''SSAs'' don't score any.
    This represents Pre-Bantu East Africans.

    Before the Bantu migration most of East Africa was inhabited by people more closely related to the Khoisan Bushmen, Nilotes, and to Central African Pygmies than to West Africans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Chaos One:

    "Sahara" is not North African though.

    North Africa is to the north of Sahara.

    You would need to ask Tolan what he used for that component but it sounds like it could be samples from the speakers of Nilo-Saharan and Chadic.

    Maybe it should be called Sahel:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahel
    Since there's no East African, North African and NE African on this calculator, seems this is a mix of all three.

    Plus, there's no way I'm 19% Nilotic lol

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    Ok, there's "South Med" and "East Med". But this prove my point: just imagine if I just go there and say that I'm "19% Tuareg". Heck, that would make no sense at all - while I do think that I've Hausa or Fulani background (but both are SSA shifted, not Sahelian anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Chaos One:

    "Sahara" is not North African though.

    North Africa is to the north of Sahara.

    You would need to ask Tolan what he used for that component but it sounds like it could be samples from the speakers of Nilo-Saharan and Chadic.

    Maybe it should be called Sahel:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahel
    Sahara is North Africa, seems to be among the highest components on them in this calculator, I've seen results of some North Africans in Tolan K25.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    This represents Pre-Bantu East Africans.

    Before the Bantu migration most of East Africa was inhabited by people more closely related to the Khoisan Bushmen, Nilotes, and to Central African Pygmies than to West Africans.
    When I said purest SSAs I meant they are the purest West Africans. Bantu speaking groups have admixture from African HGs and Pygmies.

    Anyway, the discussion ends here, all you know is to spread innacurate bullshit about genetics in any single discussion (about other subjects as well), if that was a serious forum you would receive some kind of warning for editing posts after the response of your discussion partner.

    I think that we should have moderation in genetics discussions here, since this is supposedly the only serious section in this forum.

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    This shows the distribution of African populations 8000 years ago. Probably the area inhabited by Nilotes is underestimated.

    "North Africans" is the area with Natufian-like admixture, which ultimately came from West Eurasia.

    https://www.dhushara.com/paradoxhtm/culture.htm

    Last edited by Peterski; 02-21-2020 at 08:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    This shows the distribution of African populations 8000 years ago. Probably the area inhabited by Nilotes is underestimated.

    "North Africans" is basically the area with Natufian-like admixture, which ultimately came from West Eurasia.

    Iberomaurusians were basically a mix of Nilotic/Bushmen (Bushmen and Nilotoc are related) + West African + Natufian (which defines "North African"):

    https://www.dhushara.com/paradoxhtm/culture.htm

    Ah, another point here.

    My South Med at Tolan K13:

    A-West-Europe 39,35%
    C-South-Med 20,72%

    It seems one gives it as South Med, other gives it as Sahelian.

    At some point, maybe at K25 my Hausa and Moroccan background made a joint number to be at 19%, while there's residual SSA from the Hausa background.

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    Chaos one even when you dont like a specific calculator at least national results are comparable.

    You can argue the name of a component but its still useful to compare nations

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