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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Rgarding the northeast african, component being iberian or not, look at this mestizos/pardos results in OP

    Which countries are the ones scoring the highest Northeast African? Brazil Venezuela Cuba Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico.

    Which is the common denominator between those countries? Higher SSA
    How much northeast african score Panamá?
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    Quote Originally Posted by axel.aleman View Post
    How much northeast african score Panamá?
    Not much but notice that panameños i have added from gedmatch are not the heavily SSA ones. They hve more amerindian than SSA.

    Anyways i am not saying SSA admixed latino countries score huge Northeast African. I am saying the tend to score more northeast african than latino countries with low SSA. Thats why i doubt that is an european component


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    Here one very clear example to show how northeast african is totally related to SSA ancestry.

    Northeast African component in Brazilians from gedmatch depending on their SSA range. The more SSA brazilians score, the higher the northeast African component too.


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    I am 25 % SSA and only score score 1.25 % Northeast African

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Siberian, East Asian and other minor stuff. Even some of the SSA is actually packed in their European ancestry. Iberians usually score over 1% SSA in GEDmatch. Summing these minor admixtures Latino's European score will increase in at least 2%.
    Yeah. I like Argentano, but he seems to have a poor grasp of what GEDmatch is made for. It's not designed to calculate percentages of recent European, Asian and African ancestries, but to dig up components of thousands of years ago. Many Europeans will score things like East_Asian, Siberian and even SSA (in the case of Iberians/South Italians).

    If a Latin American is, let's say, 90% Turkish and 10% Amerindian, that Latin American would come out as 80% Caucasoid and 20% Mongoloid in GEDmatch. The same for someone that is 90% Portuguese, Galician or Canarian and 10% SSA, that guy will come out as 85% or 87% European and 13% - 15% SSA. Almost all West Iberians and Canarians score over 2% SSA in GEDmatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axel.aleman View Post
    I am 25 % SSA and only score score 1.25 % Northeast African

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    I am from Spain and in my k15 I score 0% SSA and 1,32% Northeast African.

    I edited: i score 1,24% in k13, and 1,32 in k15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Yeah. I like Argentano, but he seems to have a poor grasp of what GEDmatch is made for. It's not designed to calculate percentages of recent European, Asian and African ancestries, but to dig up components of thousands of years ago. Many Europeans will score things like East_Asian, Siberian and even SSA (in the case of Iberians/South Italians).

    If a Latin American is, let's say, 90% Turkish and 10% Amerindian, that Latin American would come out as 80% Caucasoid and 20% Mongoloid in GEDmatch. The same for someone that is 90% Portuguese, Galician or Canarian and 10% SSA, that guy will come out as 85% or 87% European and 13% - 15% SSA. Almost all West Iberians and Canarians score over 2% SSA in GEDmatch.
    Are you from North Italia? Did you post any gedmatch results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by axel.aleman View Post
    I am 25 % SSA and only score score 1.25 % Northeast African

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    well you are in the range of what i posted actually. What matters is what the majority of individuals scoring 25% SSA score like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Yeah. I like Argentano, but he seems to have a poor grasp of what GEDmatch is made for. It's not designed to calculate percentages of recent European, Asian and African ancestries, but to dig up components of thousands of years ago. Many Europeans will score things like East_Asian, Siberian and even SSA (in the case of Iberians/South Italians).

    If a Latin American is, let's say, 90% Turkish and 10% Amerindian, that Latin American would come out as 80% Caucasoid and 20% Mongoloid in GEDmatch. The same for someone that is 90% Portuguese, Galician or Canarian and 10% SSA, that guy will come out as 85% or 87% European and 13% - 15% SSA. Almost all West Iberians and Canarians score over 2% SSA in GEDmatch.
    I appreciate Argentano's work but unfortunately Eurogenes K15 and other GEDmatch calculators aren't powerful enough to deal with noisy data. It produces noisy results by overfitting the data, which is why Europeans and even the extremely drifted Amerindians can score small amounts of East Asian, South Asian, Siberian and other stuff that aren't really there. And this is why people like me can score over 2% South Asian (with no Balkan shift, so Romani ancestry is impossible). Five years is like a century in the fastly developing field of genetics.

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