Continental ancestry of colonial latinos in the 40-65% euro range from Gedmatch

[gixajo]

Todavía a vueltas con el SSA?

[Token]

Well this is eurogenes k13 and not eurogenes k15 but i guess its comparable. The SSA isnt that high even when you spent half an hour searching for highly SSA kits.

What about the southeast asian and siberian?? You said gedmatch has a lot of noise,and that iberians were scoring relavant numbers of that

I asked you to post 30-40 kits to back that up. I am still waiting. And post the kits not just the results....

Several of the kits posted by Adamastor shows significant Asian and Siberian scores.

[Adamastor]

Well this is eurogenes k13 and not eurogenes k15 but i guess its comparable. The SSA isnt that high even when you spent half an hour searching for highly SSA kits.

What about the southeast asian and siberian?? You said gedmatch has a lot of noise,and that iberians were scoring relavant numbers of that

I asked you to post 30-40 kits to back that up. I am still waiting. And post the kits not just the results....

I knew you were going to insinuate these people are not Iberians, that's why I choose only kits of known members of anthroforums like FilhoV, PTTagus, Pedro Ruben etc (I have the kit numbers of some of them, so you can search and see for yourself). All of those kits belong to people who posted their results, this way you cannot claim I'm making this up. I challenge you to give a single non-Basque Iberian kit that doesn't score significant 3-4%+ levels of noise. Prove with kit numbers and genealogy, I'm posting only known people around here, so you cannot claim I'm inventing.

I never said Iberians were scoring more than 2-3% of Siberian, East_Asian etc. But even more than 1% is already a relevant noise, that's what you don't get. If a guy scores 2% SSA, 2.70% Northeast African and 1.77% Siberian it's already a lot of noise. Almost 7%.

You really think I'll waste my whole night posting 40 kits here, 10-15 are more than enough to show the pattern. Especially when all full Iberians who ever posted their results had similar results.

[Argentano]

Several of the kits posted by Adamastor shows significant Asian and Siberian scores.

FALSE some do score asian and sibeiran but most score 0. The average would be extremely low. All the fuss is about scoring 0.5 siberian on average?

Do an avrage of those kits, siberian and southeast asian will be close to 0. Irrelevant.

[Argentano]

I knew you were going to insinuate these people are not Iberians, that's why I choose only kits of known members of anthroforums like FilhoV, PTTagus, Pedro Ruben etc (I have the kit numbers of some of them, so you can search and see for yourself). All of those kits belong to people who posted their results, this way you cannot claim I'm making this up. I challenge you to give a single non-Basque Iberian kit that doesn't score significant 3-4%+ levels of noise. Prove with kit numbers and genealogy, I'm posting only known people around here, so you cannot claim I'm inventing.

I never said Iberians were scoring more than 2-3% of Siberian, East_Asian etc. But even more than 1% is already a relevant noise, that's what you don't get. If a guy scores 2% SSA, 2.70% Northeast African and 1.77% Siberian it's already a lot of noise. Almost 7%.

You really think I'll waste my whole night posting 40 kits here, 10-15 are more than enough to show the pattern. Especially when all full Iberians who ever posted their results had similar results.

You aactully say it yourslf. Its NOISE. I dont give a fuck if 1 iberian out of 20 scores 0.8 %siberian. Its completely irrelevant and i have no idea why the fuck do you care about this.

ITS NOISE. ITS IRRELEVANT.

if you were to make averages with the kits YOU posted the southeast asian and sibierna average would be close to 0 and the SSA would be close to 2


Not far from eurogenes k15 references. I find those numbers irrelevant. Dont know why all your complaints

[Zuh]

So after Mexico my genetics are more common in Chile Weon?





Maybe in less European areas of Puerto Rico and Northern east brazil?

[gixajo]

Ok, easy:

Eurogenes K13

Portuguese

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.17
2 West_Med 26.92
3 East_Med 14.89
4 Baltic 9.5
5 West_Asian 3.33
6 Red_Sea 3.29
7 Northeast_African 2.45
8 Sub-Saharan 2.19
9 Oceanian 0.25

Andalusian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.81
2 West_Med 29.04
3 Baltic 10
4 East_Med 6.81
5 West_Asian 5.78
6 Red_Sea 3.11
7 Northeast_African 2.34
9 Siberian 1.32

Canarians

Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.70
2 West_Med 25.80
3 East_Med 18.35
4 Baltic 6.40
5 Sub-Saharan 5.33
6 Red_Sea 4.84
7 Northeast_African 2.50

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.23
2 West_Med 25.97
3 East_Med 19.63
4 Baltic 10.94
5 Red_Sea 6.1
6 Northeast_African 5.12
7 Amerindian 1
8 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Portuguese

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.97
2 West_Med 23.43
3 East_Med 17.3
4 Baltic 7.43
5 Sub-Saharan 4.3
6 West_Asian 3.59
7 Red_Sea 3.21
8 Amerindian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.16
10 Oceanian 0.01

Portuguese

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.89
2 West_Med 26.87
3 East_Med 15.64
4 Baltic 9.38
5 Red_Sea 3.35
6 West_Asian 2.73
7 Sub-Saharan 2.03
8 Northeast_African 1.87
9 Amerindian 0.78
10 Oceanian 0.45


Pedro Ruben's K15

1 Atlantic 27.12
2 North_Sea 19.74
3 West_Med 18.91
4 East_Med 11.18
5 Baltic 6.45
6 Red_Sea 4.63
7 Eastern_Euro 3.84
8 Sub-Saharan 2.8
9 Northeast_African 2.74
10 West_Asian 1.49
11 Amerindian 0.86
12 Siberian 0.25

Andalusian

Population Percent
1 Atlantic 26.47
2 West_Med 23.69
3 North_Sea 23.69
4 East_Med 9.54
5 Baltic 6.91
6 Red_Sea 3.2
7 Eastern_Euro 3.03
8 Northeast_African 2.03
9 Sub-Saharan 0.99
10 Southeast_Asian 0

Portuguese

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 30.43
2 North_Sea 22.50
3 West_Med 21.75
4 Baltic 7.86
5 East_Med 5.94
6 Eastern_Euro 5.41
7 Sub-Saharan 2.11
8 West_Asian 1.89
9 Red_Sea 1.28

Portuguese

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.13
2 Atlantic 24.82
3 West_Med 21.29
4 East_Med 10.57
5 Red_Sea 3.76
6 Sub-Saharan 3.37
7 Baltic 3.28
8 Eastern_Euro 2.02
9 Southeast_Asian 1.71
10 Northeast_African 0.52
11 West_Asian 0.3
12 Oceanian 0.23


Portuguese

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 26
2 West_Med 24.31
3 North_Sea 18.13
4 East_Med 13.45
5 Baltic 4.59
6 Eastern_Euro 4.14
7 Red_Sea 4.08
8 Southeast_Asian 1.25
9 Sub-Saharan 1.24
10 Northeast_African 1.23
11 South_Asian 1
12 Amerindian 0.51
13 West_Asian 0.04


Portuguese

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.66
2 North_Sea 24.47
3 West_Med 19.68
4 East_Med 9.91
5 Baltic 5.74
6 Red_Sea 4.51
7 Eastern_Euro 3.81
8 Northeast_African 2.13
9 Sub-Saharan 1.14
10 West_Asian 0.96


Half Portuguese and half Spanish

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.36
2 West_Med 26.9
3 East_Med 13.09
4 Baltic 9.28
5 West_Asian 3.85
6 Red_Sea 2.82
7 Northeast_African 2.24
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Amerindian 0.39


Portuguese

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.42
2 West_Med 28.51
3 East_Med 12.04
4 Baltic 9.58
5 Red_Sea 4.47
6 Northeast_African 2.60
7 Sub-Saharan 1.13
8 West_Asian 1.05





Most Iberians in my possesion are Portuguese, Galicians and other West Iberians, so I don't know about the others. I can post more 20, 30, 50 if you want. All have more than 2-3% of ''noise''.

Average of this 14 samples is 1,902, if I add my k13 would be 1,775.

What is the ponit of this?

West Iberia , Galicia and Portugal score usually more Northafrican and middle East always, and Canary Islands were originally populated by Guanches, who were ethnically Northafricans.

[Argentano]

Todavía a vueltas con el SSA?

jajajaj no se que les pasa. Quieren hacer un super problema porque un iberico sale 1% ssa o 0.5% siberian EN PROMEDIO

Anda a saber a que quieren llegar

[gixajo]

jajajaj no se que les pasa. Quieren hacer un super problema porque un iberico sale 1% ssa o 0.5% siberian EN PROMEDIO

Anda a saber a que quieren llegar

Se supone que quiere relacionar el Siberian a Iberia, y para demostrarlo relaciona el SSA Ibérico habitual con el Siberian Ibérico promedio?

Tú por el contrario relacionas el Siberian con la procedencia asiática?

No hay forma de discriminar de donde viene el Siberian, por movimientos de población tendría más lógica pensar que tu opción es más acertada, pero tampoco es mala idea de hacer lo que hace él para tener una idea del aporte de Siberian de la parte Europea.

En mi caso tengo SSA pero no Siberian, pero tampoco yo soy medida de nada siendo un solo individuo.

[Adamastor]

You aactully say it yourslf. Its NOISE. I dont give a fuck if 1 iberian out of 20 scores 0.8 %siberian. Its completely irrelevant and i have no idea why the fuck do you care about this.

ITS NOISE. ITS IRRELEVANT.

if you were to make averages with the kits YOU posted the southeast asian and sibierna average would be close to 0 and the SSA would be close to 2


Not far from eurogenes k15 references. I find those numbers irrelevant. Dont know why all your complaints

The East Eurasian average in the kits I posted would be around 1.5% and SSA +Northeast African around 3.5%, it's significant noise, 5%. And they are representative.

It's irrelevant for big percentages, I agree, but relevant for people scoring in the 90s or around. Let's say a Cuban with 3 Canarian grandparents is exactly 90% Canarian and 10% SSA. He would be 20% SSA in GEDmatch (Canarians have high SSA due to North African admixture and all Maghrebis are 20% SSA in K15/K13 that's why Canarians are 5-10%). It's a considerable difference IMO. The same way for some guy who is, let's say, 3.8% Amerindian and scored those bullshitic East Asian and Siberian percentages. He could end up being 7% ''Amerindian''.

I mean, I'm not making things up. Davidski himself admits it, he is the fucking creator of all those calculators. Mail him if you want, he is accessible.