Not a troll thread, but south Italians are now proven to be closer to middle east?

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by MinervaItalica

Why not 1000?

Dude Spanish direct rule in Sicily started somewhat around 1500 until early 1700 not exactly 600 years...

During late middle ages it was ruled indipentently by Aragonese rulers when "Spain" didn't exist yet. Kingdom of Sicily is older than Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_...on#Composition

Last time I looked for, Aragonese were still Spaniards.
Sicily started to be ruled by Spain in 1282 (oh, wait, that we were being ruled by Moors

).

**marco** · 02-20-2020, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Lol, Gedmatch is seriously outdated. The SSA admixture is less than 8% for both Northern Moroccans and Guanches, and the latter cluster the closest to the former. Well, since you're not least knowledgeable on genetics it's pretty obvious that you don't care about these important things since the French don't have any NA admixture in contrast to most Iberians who do.

South Moroccan Berbers are pure and score less 3 percent ssa if even that some score 0 percent and they score higher iberomaurusian then gaunches and north Moroccans. No levant component either

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Lol, Gedmatch is seriously outdated. The SSA admixture is less than 8% for both Northern Moroccans and Guanches, and the latter cluster the closest to the former. Well, since you're not least knowledgeable on genetics it's pretty obvious that you don't care about these important things since the French don't have any NA admixture in contrast to most Iberians who do.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ns-on-Gedmatch

**marco** · 02-20-2020, 01:14 AM

West Iberians can score up to 20 percent North African it depends on what area you’re talking about. Is not important anyway Spain is Spain and North Africa is North Africa

**MinervaItalica** · 02-20-2020, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

Last time I looked for, Aragonese were still Spaniards.
Sicily started to be ruled by Spain in 1282 (oh, wait, that we were being ruled by Moors

).

Kingdom of Aragon wasnt "Spain" though. No read again it says ruled indipendently by cadet branch, it is different from direct rule also because Spain didn't exist as a nation when you were still under moors rule. The Aragonese in Sicily formed a own branch.

**~~Kamal900~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ns-on-Gedmatch

Uh, what does that prove exactly? The spreadsheets that are used in most Gedmatch calculators are outdated, and only some got updated like Eurogenes K13.

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by MinervaItalica

Kingdom of Aragon wasnt "Spain" though. No read again it says ruled indipendently, it is different from direct rule also because Spain didn't exist as a nation when you were still under moors rule.

Nomenclature is your excuse?

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Uh, what does that prove exactly? The spreadsheets that are used in most Gedmatch calculators are outdated, and only some got updated like Eurogenes K13.

It proves that French also score NA admixture, of course.

**~~Kamal900~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo

It proves that French also score NA admixture, of course.

Exactly that. It's better to use the recently updated gedmatch calculators like K13 and so on, or using the G25 spreadsheets instead.

**~~Cristiano viejo~~** · 02-20-2020, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Toppo900

Exactly that. It's better to use the recently updated gedmatch calculators like K13 and so on, or using the G25 spreadsheets instead.

In any Eurogenes table they have posted about all the Euro (and non Euro) populations, France and many more European countries (Italy and even UK and Germany) scored a bit of NA admixture.