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Thread: Not a troll thread, but south Italians are now proven to be closer to middle east?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    In any Eurogenes table they have posted about all the Euro (and non Euro) populations, France and many more European countries (Italy and even UK and Germany) scored a bit of NA admixture.
    A bit is mostly likely noise, not that is in significant numbers like in the case with Iberians. Seriously, just experiments with G25 spreadsheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    A bit is mostly likely noise, not that is in significant numbers like in the case with Iberians. Seriously, just experiments with G25 spreadsheets.
    Noise... of course, of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Northern Moroccans are less than 8% SSA, and they're the people that the Guanches cluster the closest to.
    True, even less than 8% SSA, this because canarians doesn't score SSA actually, i did a thread of this yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    North Africans are not really 20% SSA, these GEDmatch calculators are seriously outdated. Guanche samples there also score 20% SSA, but now we know they are not due to better calculators and academic studies.
    Target: Northeast_African
    Distance: 0.7164% / 0.00716383
    45.4 Levant
    24.8 Yemenite_Arab
    17.8 Northwest_African
    9.8 Amharic
    1.8 West_African
    0.2 Amerindian
    0.2 Uralic

    (Without Northwest_African)
    Target: Northeast_African
    Distance: 1.4687% / 0.01468664
    33.2 Yemenite_Arab
    32.2 European_Jewish
    17.6 Levant
    12.8 Amharic
    4.0 West_African
    0.2 Eskimo

    Target: Northwest_African
    Distance: 8.1322% / 0.08132213
    50.6 Northeast_African
    23.6 Iberian
    17.4 Amharic
    8.4 West_African

    (Without Northeast_African)
    Target: Northwest_African
    Distance: 8.4736% / 0.08473576
    26.4 Amharic
    24.4 European_Jewish
    24.0 Iberian
    15.6 Yemenite_Arab
    9.6 West_African

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    Quote Originally Posted by marco View Post
    West Iberians can score up to 20 percent North African it depends on what area you’re talking about. Is not important anyway Spain is Spain and North Africa is North Africa
    West Iberian can be up to 20 percent north African?? Can you share an Iberian with such results and what does this guy look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky View Post
    West Iberian can be up to 20 percent north African?? Can you share an Iberian with such results and what does this guy look like?

    Don't listen to them, just try to provoke

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    Quote Originally Posted by marco View Post
    West Iberians can score up to 20 percent North African it depends on what area you’re talking about. Is not important anyway Spain is Spain and North Africa is North Africa
    Show me a peninsular iberian that scores that, you are saying things just for trolling. Excluding canarians, the only result i ever saw with a "considerable amount" of NA was a portuguese with 12% NA. 20% must mean recent ancestry for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Lol, Gedmatch is seriously outdated. The SSA admixture is less than 8% for both Northern Moroccans and Guanches, and the latter cluster the closest to the former. Well, since you're not least knowledgeable on genetics it's pretty obvious that you don't care about these important things since the French don't have any NA admixture in contrast to most Iberians who do.
    I compared myself with Guanches, some have more SSA than me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    It's off-topic question.
    Did French (especially Occitan and Arpitan) people settle in Italy (as in Spain)? Which books or articles do you advise? I found information only about Provencal settlement in Lucera but user Peyrol wrote about Burgundians in Piedmont and Savoyards in Apulia.
    In Spain was very common, all the Santiago´s way during the Central Middle Ages (1000-1200) was a route for the colonization of "francos" (thus, french), as the Reconquista went further south and people was needed. Due to this romanic and gothic was introduced all along the north of Spain and Castille.

    Basically all the villages called "Villafranca..." mean "French village". For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villafranca_del_Bierzo

    Catalonia was largely repopulated by occitans too, here there´s even a overlap in surnames, between catalonian-occitanian ones. In fact catalonian lenguage is a dialect of the occitanian macrolenguage.

    In the XVI-XVII there was a big migration to Aragón and mainly Zaragoza, 1/3 of the city population was of occitanian extraction (and paradoxically was largelly massacred during the french military sieges during Independance War of 1808-1809)

    Until the 1920´s gascon dialect (another dialect of the occitanian macrolanguage) was still spoken on San Sebastian.

    Then since the end of the IWW the population change was the opposite, France needed young men to substitute the deaths of the war, and many spaniards migrated there. Nowadays spanish surnames are common there.

    There has been large cultural and genetic interchange between both parts of the Pyrinees since a long time (there are bullfights in southern France, for example), I could informate about this even better, there´s much information, but it´s mainly in spanish and french, I don´t know if you could understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaItalica View Post
    Random genetic studies online are bullshits. It's still seems hard for people here to realize it. I would trust original sources from my country studies only.
    Could you show some?

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