Not a troll thread, but south Italians are now proven to be closer to middle east?

[Loki]

Not rocket science nor surprising, the Levant is adjacent to Europe and many Levantines are indistinguishable from Europeans. There is a racial continuum.

[Karol Klačansky]

What means closer to Middle East?

There is still neighbouring people closer to them than Middle Easterners are,
rest of Italians and Greeks

the comparison was between southern italians and western europens, obviously they are closer to other italians and greeks. I want southern italians to belong to europe in every sense, but it seems they are something between europeans and middle eastern populations, like everyone has always thought. I used to argue hardcore back in the day that southern italians had less than 3% of their dna from the middle east, scientific studies used to claim that, but it seems the trolls were actually right.

[MinervaItalica]

S.Italians are closer to other Italians and Europeans more that to NA or ME, this has already been proven many times, not matter how much trolls will try hard to manipulate results.

There is no need to discuss about this everytime. It's a topic that pretty much become boring by now.

[Samnium]

Depending on the region, they are some considerable amount of NA/ME ancestry. Western Sicily and Calabria are a good example.

Italy is highly variable, as well as Southern Italy.

The model "half European half Levantine" doesn't work for Apulians or Molisans that are Northern shifted and that can cluster in Central Italy too.

S.Italians are closer to other Italians and Europeans more that to NA or ME, this has already been proven many times, not matter how much trolls will try hard to manipulate results.

There is no need to discuss about this everytime. It's a topic that pretty much become boring by now.

Southern Italians are of course closer to Greeks and Central Italians but they are closer to Levantines than to 95% European countries, it's not something "wrong" or whatever, they are still distant to "Levantines".

[Samnium]

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[Rocinante]

Italy is highly variable, as well as Southern Italy.

The model "half European half Levantine" doesn't work for Apulians or Molisans that are Northern shifted and that can cluster in Central Italy too.



Southern Italians are of course closer to Greeks and Central Italians but they are closer to Levantines than to 95% European countries, it's not something "wrong" or whatever, they are still distant to "Levantines".

I know mate, we discussed this before like a couple of times. Even Western Sicilians or Calabrians are more closer to europeans than the lebaneses or moroccans, but is a reality that they have levantine blood. Nothing wrong with that. Another theory i saw days ago is that they are not actually levantine, just that the levantines have greek and roman blood and that is just common ancestry between both populations.

[Samnium]

I know mate, we discussed this before like a couple of times. Even Western Sicilians or Calabrians are more closer to europeans than the lebaneses or moroccans, but is a reality that they have levantine blood. Nothing wrong with that. Another theory i saw days ago is that they are not actually levantine, just that the levantines have greek and roman blood and that is just common ancestry between both populations.

In reality it's both ways. The closest Levantines to Europe have significant Steppe/EEF admixture that make them cluster closer to Europeans. At the same times Southern Italians, East Med more generally (including most of Central Italians and most of Greeks) show some degree of direct "Levantine" admixture. Also in some regions you can have other exotic sources like arabian/north-african.

Southern Italians as a whole are closer to Levantines than to French/Swiss people and even Spaniards. There are very outlying results also that are closer to Saudis than to Spaniards !

North-Africans can appear sometimes on oracles of Southern Italians if the guy/sample is heavily NA mixed and drifted towards North-African Jewish people.

[Rocinante]

In reality it's both ways. The closest Levantines to Europe have significant Steppe/EEF admixture that make them cluster closer to Europeans. At the same times Southern Italians, East Med more generally (including most of Central Italians and most of Greeks) show some degree of direct "Levantine" admixture. Also in some regions you can have other exotic sources like arabian/north-african.

Southern Italians as a whole are closer to Levantines than to French/Swiss people and even Spaniards. There are very outlying results also that are closer to Saudis than to Spaniards !

North-Africans can appear sometimes on oracles of Southern Italians if the guy/sample is heavily NA mixed and drifted towards North-African Jewish people.

Yes, i always said (and i think that makes sense) that the East Med marker it's just an euro bridge that connect levantines to greeks and italians, made by ancient greek and roman common ancestry. But i could be wrong.

[Kamal900]

Not rocket science nor surprising, the Levant is adjacent to Europe and many Levantines are indistinguishable from Europeans. There is a racial continuum.

I can't really say. I mean, me and my family may look Europeans on the outside, but genetically speaking, we're predominately MENA.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6507948

[catgeorge]

What are the point of these threads to troll Italians and South Europeans - do you consider yourself over and above?

Doesn't take a scientist to determine geneflow - look up equidistant in the dictionary it may answer your questions.