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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I just pointed that most of people dont know about genetic. People in Europe feel European and dont see genetic conexion with foreigners, even if it exists.
    Spaniards have a bit of NA blood but I can sure you 99% of Spaniards dont know about this and they dont feel any conexion with NAs, the contrary, most of Spaniards dislike them.
    The same with the rest of Europeans (not sure really about Russians, Finns etc, maybe they do feel something about Asians but I doubt).
    Im my opinion most spaniards that ive met overestimate their connection to north africa. Ive met plenty of spaniards who say we are a mix between europeans and arabs and im like yea thats totally inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky View Post
    Im my opinion most spaniards that ive met overestimate their connection to north africa. Ive met plenty of spaniards who say we are a mix between europeans and arabs and im like yea thats totally inaccurate.
    Arabs are not not even from North Africa.

    I barely have seen a Spaniard saying such thing, a random Andalusian lefty politician aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Arabs are not not even from North Africa.

    I barely have seen a Spaniard saying such thing, a random Andalusian lefty politician aside.
    Of course they aren’t and it’s total BS. Every time I’ve spoken to a Spaniard about genetics though here in Vienna every single one of them believed they had a lot of moorish blood and many of them were kind of proud of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky View Post
    Of course they aren’t and it’s total BS. Every time I’ve spoken to a Spaniard about genetics though here in Vienna every single one of them believed they had a lot of moorish blood and many of them were kind of proud of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Southern Italians are around 25/30% R1B whereas Northern Italy can reach up to 55%/60% and Central Italy is generally an intermediate.

    After R1b, there is a prevalence of J1 (Arabian origin), J2 (Caucasus), E (related to North-Africans but that came originally from East Africa) and also G haplogroups (Caucasus as well). There are areas that have much more elevated R1B and particuliarly Italo-Celtic Y-DNA (like Cosenza in Calabria, where settled Bruttians that were a mix of Italic tribes).



    Abruzzo is genetically Southern Italian, there are Molisans/Apulians/Sicilians that cluster above the Abruzzo averages. Molise is much more Central Italian shifted and closer to Lazio/Marche people.
    i think J1 is of neolithic origin, i myself am J1 and i am 0% red sea which makes a truly semitic origin almost impossible in my case, what really matters is autosomal

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